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House Dems stoke the fire (RATS Biden, Edwards, Pelosi, distance themselves from Howard Dean)
Hill News ^ | 6/08/05 | Josephine Hearn

Posted on 06/07/2005 7:58:06 PM PDT by Libloather

House Dems stoke the fire
By Josephine Hearn

House Democratic leaders yesterday distanced themselves from Howard Dean’s fiery rhetoric, saying that the outspoken Democratic Party chairman’s recent controversial statements do not speak for them.

Their comments echoed Sen. Joseph Biden (Del.) and former senator and vice presidential candidate John Edwards (N.C.), who took issue over the weekend with Dean’s recent statement that “a lot of [Republicans] have never made an honest living in their lives.”

Dean’s penchant for harsh rhetoric has drawn criticism several times already since he took the helm of the Democratic National Committee (DNC) in February.

Last month, he suggested that House Majority Leader Tom DeLay (R-Texas), who has been rebuked several times by the House ethics committee, “ought to go back to Houston where he can serve his jail sentence.” DeLay has not been charged with a crime.

House Democratic Whip Steny Hoyer (Md.) yesterday said Dean was not speaking on behalf of the party when he made those comments.

“I don’t agree with those comments, and I share the view expressed by Mr. Edwards,” Hoyer said in response to a question from The Hill at his weekly press briefing. “I don’t think they express the views of our party… and I think probably, upon reflection, they don’t express … Mr. Dean’s views. I think they were overstated.”

“I think the party spokesmen are [Senate Minority Leader] Harry Reid [Nev.] and [House Minority Leader] Nancy Pelosi [Calif.], [Senate Minority Whip] Dick Durbin [Ill.], myself, chairs of the committees, the governors. ... They are the people who have been elected to make policy,” Hoyer said. “My belief is the party chair’s job is to organize the party to support policymakers and the policies they promote.”

A spokeswoman for Dean, Karen Finney, was not immediately available for comment. Finney told The Washington Post on Monday that Dean “is a voice of the party, not the only voice. We have different voices in our party. But we are all committed to rebuilding our party and getting our country back on track.”

Hoyer supported one of Dean’s rivals, former Rep. Martin Frost (Texas), in the race for DNC chairman earlier this year.

Pelosi also disagreed with Dean’s recent remarks, according to her spokeswoman, Jennifer Crider.

But she said Dean is “doing a phenomenal job at organizing and getting infrastructure in place.”

Although Dean enjoys a reputation as a strong grassroots organizer who was the first to tap successfully into Internet fundraising, his unpredictable remarks have the potential to detract from the party’s message, some Democrats said.

“He’s so passionate, and that’s what makes him attractive. He goes up to the line. His enthusiasm gets the best of him; then he backs off for a while. It’s not a negative thing unless it becomes a distraction,” a Democratic aide said. “In the longer scheme of things, so long as he is doing the primary work of the DNC, it’s fine.”

One House Democrat, Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee (Texas), rose to Dean’s defense Monday, calling for unity within the party and encouraging him to continue to speak out.

“Chairman Howard Dean deserves our undivided support from the Democratic Party. Now is a time for us to be united in our efforts and speak directly to the people,” Jackson Lee said. “I believe that Chairman Howard Dean emulates [core Democratic] values, and should continue to work diligently to spread our message.”

Dean faces other problems besides criticism of his rhetoric. DNC fundraising in the first four months of 2005 lagged behind the Republican National Committee by a margin of $24 million. The Republicans raised $42.6 million to the Democrats’ $18.6 million.

Three top DNC fundraisers recently resigned, The Hill reported yesterday, prompting concern in some Democratic circles that Dean’s fundraising operation is troubled.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 109th; biden; chairmandean; dean; dems; distance; dnc; edwards; fire; house; howard; pelosi; stoke; themselves
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A spokeswoman for Dean, Karen Finney, was not immediately available for comment.

No comment from the RAT spokeswomen of the RAT spokesperson. Maybe they've run out of things to say...

1 posted on 06/07/2005 7:58:08 PM PDT by Libloather
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To: Libloather

Like RATs fleeing a sinking ship...


2 posted on 06/07/2005 8:01:01 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Libloather

Contrast their lack of action on Dean with their sabotage of Bolton.


3 posted on 06/07/2005 8:01:31 PM PDT by Paul Atreides (FACT: You can get more reliable information in a beauty shop, than from the media)
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To: Brilliant
“I believe that Chairman Howard Dean emulates [core Democratic] values, and should continue to work diligently to spread our message.”

I can remember when Kerry said that hate-filled Hollywood represented American values.

4 posted on 06/07/2005 8:02:51 PM PDT by Paul Atreides (FACT: You can get more reliable information in a beauty shop, than from the media)
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To: Libloather

Deans days are numbered.


5 posted on 06/07/2005 8:03:59 PM PDT by Ron in Acreage (It's the borders stupid!)
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To: Libloather
let's hope that heil howard can hold his post...the rats will implode! Want a third party?? how 'bout radical lib-rats splitting from the dims?? How great would that be??


6 posted on 06/07/2005 8:04:06 PM PDT by God luvs America (When the silent majority speaks the earth trembles!)
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..Three top DNC fundraisers recently resigned, The Hill reported yesterday, prompting concern in some Democratic circles that Dean’s fundraising operation is troubled...

How funny. If this was the Republican party, that would be the lead; the headline would be "Three Top Fundraisers Quit; Republican Fundraising in Disarray".

7 posted on 06/07/2005 8:05:10 PM PDT by MrNatural (..".You want the truth?!"...)
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To: Libloather
They aren't "distancing" themselves at all. They know that they only way they're ever going to win is to feed the idiot liberal crowd one kooky theory after another.

They're all lunatics, anyway. Biden, Pelosi, and Edwards are just as nutty as Dr. Dean.

8 posted on 06/07/2005 8:07:03 PM PDT by Reactionary
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saying that the outspoken Democratic Party chairman’s recent controversial statements do not speak for them.

Then we can expect him to be fired tomorrow? I didn't think so.

As Dem Chairman he speaks for the Party, as Mehlman speaks for the Republican Party. I'm going to be a broken record on this Dems. Everytime one of you says he doesn't speak for you, going to remind he does. Just as Terry did.

Every Day he is your Chair is another day you approved of Dean slamming Christians and blue collar Republican voters. If you should ditch him before election it'll be political opportunism, not because you were appalled by his statements. We'll toss that anchor on your necks as well.

9 posted on 06/07/2005 8:07:45 PM PDT by Soul Seeker
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To: Ron in Acreage

I wonder if Dean is upset by all this negativity coming from his party members?

We can only hope he keeps right on keeping on. We couldn't have wished for a better DNC Chairperson.


10 posted on 06/07/2005 8:07:50 PM PDT by sarasotarepublican (Politicians are like diapers. They both need changing regularly and for the same reason.)
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To: sarasotarepublican

The only way it could have been better is if they gave Albore the job.


11 posted on 06/07/2005 8:09:59 PM PDT by Paul Atreides (FACT: You can get more reliable information in a beauty shop, than from the media)
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To: Paul Atreides

Cynthia McKinney would be a nice replacement.


12 posted on 06/07/2005 8:12:01 PM PDT by Ron in Acreage (It's the borders stupid!)
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To: Ron in Acreage
True, but I like Al's fire and brimstone sermons.

"He played on our fears!!!!"

13 posted on 06/07/2005 8:13:19 PM PDT by Paul Atreides (FACT: You can get more reliable information in a beauty shop, than from the media)
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To: Libloather

It is particularly delightful to watch old tough talkin' Howie getting slapped by other Dems. The proverbial "win/win" situation. The moonbats that Dean depends on will demand he not be muzzled. So he will either fight back and cause further division within the party, or he shuts up and sees his lunatic "base" abandon him for "selling out to the man." Either way you slice it, it means the fundraising isn't going to be getting better for the Dems anytime soon.


14 posted on 06/07/2005 8:15:46 PM PDT by shempy (EABOF)
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To: Ron in Acreage; Liz; Howlin
Deans days are numbered.

It wasn't that long ago that Howie was going for the head RAT spot. Are we just pawns on Hillery's chessboard?

15 posted on 06/07/2005 8:16:45 PM PDT by Libloather (Hillary, I want my FBI file back...)
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To: God luvs America
[Want a third party?? how 'bout radical lib-rats splitting from the dims?]


Two years ago I would not have believed it possible, but I can now plausibly see the Democrats split into two camps; the moderates turning to the Libertarian Party, and the barking moonbat, tin-foil hat wearing, DUnderhead Deaniac left wingers (who are in charge of the Democrats now) aligning with the Socialist Party.
16 posted on 06/07/2005 8:30:20 PM PDT by spinestein
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To: shempy
Either way you slice it, it means the fundraising isn't going to be getting better for the Dems anytime soon.

Right. The 'kick and scream' left already gave the max to Dean's doomed effort last year. I doubt if they are still true believers enough to bleed more green for Dean.

As for the big money, even liberals like Soros don't like to push money uphill. If Dean continues to alienate the mainstream, it will sound to me more and more like a PLOT! -- a plot by Soros/Moveon to wreck the Dem party so they can create an outright socialist party, like they have in those sophisticated European countries.
(I am only half joking here. Or maybe they are setting the stage for 'mainstream' Hillary to grab control of the party and save it from extremists... )

17 posted on 06/07/2005 8:41:22 PM PDT by ARepublicanForAllReasons (A socialist is just a communist who happens to be outgunned!)
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To: Libloather

The ONLY reason that the Democrats are distancing themselves from Dean is that his efforts at fund-raising are not working. If Dean came out and accused Bush of having sex with his daughters and moeny started coming in these same putrid Rats would be saying there needed to be an investigation into Bushes incest...

Screw them to the wall I say...


18 posted on 06/07/2005 8:46:37 PM PDT by Hootch (Time for the CONSTITUTIONAL option.)
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To: spinestein
Two years ago I would not have believed it possible, but I can now plausibly see the Democrats split into two camps; the moderates turning to the Libertarian Party, and the barking moonbat, tin-foil hat wearing, DUnderhead Deaniac left wingers (who are in charge of the Democrats now) aligning with the Socialist Party.

I think the DUmmies would go to the Green Party instead of the Socialist Party but it doesn't make a difference since Green Party = Socialist Party.

A split in the Democratic party may be happening but you won't read about it in the MSM until after it happens followed by long articles about how the Democratic Party can "heal its wounds".

You have to love it when the libs meltdown.
19 posted on 06/07/2005 8:47:46 PM PDT by Ticonderoga34
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To: Libloather

20 posted on 06/07/2005 8:48:39 PM PDT by Babu
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