Posted on 06/07/2005 1:55:36 PM PDT by gopwinsin04
Abercrombie and Fitch and its subsidiary Hollister have shown an unusual degree of anatagonism to the name of Christ and an unusual display of wickedness in their promotions.
In protest, we will not allow articles of clothing displaying their logos to we worn, carried or displayed. (even if covered or masked in some way)
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Gee, the school that banned inter-racial dating is now banning A&F. At least they have their priorities straight.
The real question is .. why is everybody going overboard to PROVE I'M WRONG!!!
What do you care if I'm wrong. "Me thinks thou protesteth too much".
Why do I have to walk away .. if you don't like the thread - nobody's keeping YOU here. LOL!!
You are making a slanderous claim that has been proved false many times over the years. If you insist on doing it, then back it up or cut it out.
That is a simple question that one who has been here as long as you should not even have to ask. FR has people who are concerned about the truth and routinely challenge falsehoods such as the one you posted.
My initial reaction to your statement was one of doubt later confirmed to be appropriate by the posts of others. I care nothing for the clothing company you slandered and have never bought a thing from it. I care greatly about having FR used as a pulpit for falsehoods however.
The real question is "Why do you persist in continuing this falsehood rather than just admit it never happened as you claim?"
Excuse me .. who are you to order me to do anything ..?? You don't own me or rule over me - go take a flying leap!
ROTFLOL!!!!!
If you believe this event never took place - then how can I be slandering something that never took place .. now you're talking in circles.
You are not slandering an event, you are slandering a Company and a Person with your false claims that she is a member of the Church of Satan, and donated her profits to it.
I did not order you to do anything, commense sense should do that.
You weren't "challenging the falsehood" .. you were trying to discredit me because I wouldn't cowtow to your demands.
You said: "My initial reaction to your statement was one of doubt later confirmed to be appropriate by the posts of others."
Which proves you cannot think for yourself and only joined the conversation to pile on. Get a life. If you're not ready to defend what you know to be true - regardless of what ANYBODY SAYS ABOUT YOU - you are spineless.
I never said Liz was a member of the church of satan - SHE SAID THAT - NOT ME - so you can't accuse me of slandering a person when I never made the statement to begin with. You need to check your law books - you missed that chapter.
You said: "If you insist on doing it, then back it up or cut it out."
WHO ARE YOU TO TELL ME TO "CUT IT OUT" - GET A GRIP - THAT'S ORDERING SOMEONE TO DO SOMETHING.
You people are just over the top with your criticism - and you don't even know what you're talking about.
She never said it. In fact, according to SNOPES, which does a pretty good job of researching urban legends, Liz Clairborne has never even been on Oprah's show:
http://www.snopes.com/racial/business/claiborne.asp
While you may think someone is towing cows it isn't me nor did I "demand" any kowtowing just an admission that you were lying. Everyone can see that you were lying you aren't fooling anyone with these absurd statements.
My first skeptical comment was CONFIRMED by others I certainly was NOT "piling on."
Keep it up you're only making yourself look more idiotic.
You should have read the thread - you could have saved yourself the post.
LOL. That is some dizzying logic.
post hoc ergo propter hoc
If she said it, then it would not be slander to repeat it. But she didn't, so it is slander for you to claim she did. Get it?
Even I don't take Communion. Although I was raised a Catholic, I do not accept the Sacrament because I am divorced and I don't go to confession and probably break a few other rules that are prerequisites to Communion. The Catholic Church has its rules and I accept those rules and the consequences for not following them. That doesn't make me anti-Catholic nor does than make Catholics pagans or second-rate Christians nor does it make the Pope the Anti-Christ.
You might find this interesting...
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PROCTER & GAMBLE: WHEN CHRISTIANS SPREAD LIES
by David Sisler
This story reminds me of an old saying: "Your friends do not need to be convinced, and your enemies will not believe you, no matter what you say."
Flash! The CEO of Procter & Gamble appeared on the Sally Jesse Raphael Show on July 19, 1999, and came out of the closet. On the air for the first time, he admitted that he is a Satanist and that a large portion of the profits from P&G are donated to the Church of Satan.
Oh, wait a minute. That was not July 19, 1999, it was March 1, 1998.
Oops. Sorry. It was not March 1, 1998 on Sally. March 1 was a Sunday and no shows by Ms. Raphael are taped on Sundays. It was March 1, 1994 on the Phil Donahue Show. When allegedly asked by Donahue if declaring his connections with the Church of Satan on TV would hurt his business, the CEO of P&G reportedly replied, "There are not enough Christians in the United States to make a difference."
Well, now I really am confused. Maybe he made the confession on a recent taping of Jenny Jones.
Rats! Sorry again. It was not the CEO of Procter & Gamble, it was Liz Claiborne, and it was not on Sally in either 1998 or 1999, but it was on Oprah in 1990. And it was 40 percent of the profits from her clothing sales which went to the Church of Satan.
No, no, no. Forgive me. My mistake. It was neither P&G, nor Liz Claiborne. It was Ray Kroc in 1977 giving tithe to the Church of Satan from the millions of McDonald's burgers then sold.
The above stories have all been widely circulated. None of those stories is true — this in spite of the fact that you and I both know people who will swear on the Family Bible, while standing on their grandmother's grave, that they saw the program with their own two eyes. I have already received three forwarded emails about the July 19th "show", screaming, "It's Real!"
Urban legends are like that. They have lives of their own. There is almost never any basis in fact, but they will not die. Truth does not matter.
On August 6, 1999, Ed Glavin, Jenny's executive producer categorically stated that no one from P&G has ever been on the show. On August 16, 1999, Maurice Turner, Sally's exec, said, "There is no truth to the rumor." Way back on April 5, 1995, Phil Donahue said that no one from Procter and Gamble had ever been on his show. Finally, not only did Liz Claiborne not make the statement attributed to her on Oprah's show, at the time of the alleged incident she had never been on the program.
Procter and Gamble has been defending itself and its corporate symbols for decades now. Finally they became so tired of the rumors that they went to court. By the most recent count I can find, they have sued Amway distributors (who are accused of spreading the rumors) six times, and have filed fifteen court cases in total.
The Most Reverend Daniel E. Pilarczyk, Archbishop of Cincinnati, in an open letter dated July 2, 1999, said, "People who accept these rumors as truth have the obligation to investigate such accusations before spreading false information to others. This is but another example of the insidiousness of dishonesty spread by spoken and printed words and the difficulty of repairing such damage once it has been released."
On August 5, 1999, Jerry Falwell said, "These rumors need to be squelched. Many Christians and non-Christians alike are responsible..."
Paige Patterson, of the Southern Baptist Convention said, on July 28, 1999, "Let me urge those in the Christian community not to be a part of any false accusation but to be absolutely certain of your ground before accusations are made."
Do you remember the line which was attributed to the Phil Donahue show: "There are not enough Christians in the United States to make a difference"? Whoever was behind the lies at the time, wrote that sentence calculating that it would stir Christians to act against P&G. Unfortunately, and for the wrong reason, the statement has been proven true. There have not been enough Christians to make a difference. Christians could have stopped this lie — and the others — by simply investigating, and then refusing to pass the story along. But the story circulated around the country, appearing in church bulletins, newsletters, flyers and other parish communications.
Take the Bible on faith. Check everything else out. Circulating these rumors is nothing less than spreading lies. We Christians do enough things to give God a "black eye" without this.
http://davidsisler.com/8-28-99.htm
The school takes no Federal funds. This is a choice that they have made -- for better or for worse.
Well .. continue to circle around that argument .. but I wouldn't try to defend anybody with that logic.
And .. your point is ..??
"The reason Bob Jones U. did this is the same reason that I don't purchase Liz Clairborne clothing .. Liz supports the church of Satan. I don't care to help her support that kind of evil. " You, in Post #35 of this thread which started this whole discussion.
That you keep insisting that a lie is true.
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