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Right fights back
Hollywood Reporter ^ | 06/07/05 | Paul Bond

Posted on 06/07/2005 1:45:04 PM PDT by Pikamax

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To: marty60

Anyone who's willing to hustle can get a movie made cheap(Kevin Smith, Linklater, Taratino).


41 posted on 06/07/2005 4:01:27 PM PDT by Borges
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To: mnehrling

Must be an OJ jury. Nixon was a great commie fighter. And EFFECTIVE.


42 posted on 06/07/2005 4:25:52 PM PDT by marty60
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To: marty60
The lefties also refuse to admit that he ended the Vietnam war.. (which I think was a bad thing considering the million or so people that were killed by the North Vietnamese after we left..) Of course, we have all the bureaucracy he added... such as OSHA..

The left is actually trying to re-write history about Nixon and blame him for Carter's oil problems. The other night I watched Oil Storm and my jaw almost dropped when they tried to relate Nixon to the gas shortages, as if it happened on his watch..
43 posted on 06/07/2005 4:57:42 PM PDT by mnehring (http://www.mlearningworld.com)
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To: Darkwolf377

"You make a radical Muslim mad, and he won't rip off your bumper sticker, he'll rip off your bumper -- then your car will be found in another state, and he'll put a fatwa on you," he says. "I think fearing for your life is a pretty good reason not to do it."

Is that the same "man" who described conservatives who are afraid to speak up as "wimps"?


44 posted on 06/07/2005 5:10:23 PM PDT by winner3000 (part)
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To: Hang'emAll

What a stupid, unthoughtful, and boorish remark. The actors are not the problem. Let's not throughout the baby with the dirty bathwater, chum.
Let's kill the "all actors are rich" myth here. Only a very FEW are making huge amounts of money or are now producing their own films with their own companies. Even fewer make a comfortable living for their families. BUT, 99.1% of those hard working human actors never make enough money each year to qualify for their union's health insurance or pension which is set at $7,500 a year. And many more of their yearly taxable income on tax forms qualify them at below federal poverty level. That is why many of them have subsistance other jobs like in the service industries.
Please stop continuing to WRONGFULLY catagorize actors as the problem here. Many times it's the mega-star actor/producers who are the culprits, NOT the working actor.
Govt website LINK:
http://www.bls.gov/oco/ocos093.htm


45 posted on 06/07/2005 5:27:58 PM PDT by cowboy_code (Live by the Code!)
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To: mnehrling
The only thing I didn't like that Nixon did was the wage freeze. I was working for Ma Bell at the time and our raises were to go into effect the day AFTER he instituted the freeze. Do you know the Union actually argued with Ma Bell about moving the raise date up a week. I hate unions.

The company went ahead and gave us the raises. And I never forgot it when the next strike vote came. Anyone that sat in Gas lines on their assigned day to get gas, knew EXACTLY WHO was responsible for the problem. and his name was Jimmah "one term" Carter.

46 posted on 06/07/2005 6:21:59 PM PDT by marty60
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To: winner3000

That's him! :) John Cleese expressed the same sentiment once, but he had the guts to say something like "We make fun of the church because we know we will only get some complaints, but the Muslims will kill you." I don't recall the original context, but Cleese made himself look not so admirable--he could dish it out, but he could take it, too.


47 posted on 06/07/2005 6:37:05 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Dems, the annoying vegetarians of politics)
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To: Borges
The Groupthink is that every movie regardless of who made it or the circumstances surrounding it's behind made is always part of some monolithic system and is really what 'Hollywood' thinks. I attribute art to the creator and no one else. The character in the movie was an abuser as well. She's certainly not what anyone would take to be a run of the mill Christian. I would say that Reds showed how Communism eventually betrayed the working class they were supposed to represent. The Preacher from Footloose turns out to be a noble character albeit overly protective. I think people left the movie thinking that.

It's not groupthink to simply point out that it just so happens that 99% of Hollywood product is anti-Christian. As an agnostic, I think it's laughable to look at this as being coincidental and not something that's part of the system itself--HOLLYWOOD is the entity guilty of groupthink here; those pointing it out are merely stating the obvious.

Hollywood is not simply a distribution center that rubberstamps what the moviemakers do--they say Yes or No to movies depending on the message, the profitability. If anyone needs evidence of this, look at one of the biggest-grossing movies of 3004--The Passion. Where are all these conservative religious movies that are being greenlit to cash in on this? But there are always ripoffs and "homages" being made to EVERY movie that makes money--why not in this situation?

The creators of the movies have little say in what the studio approves or cuts out. And they stop proposing conservative-themed movies because they know they only get to pitch so many times before they stop getting callbacks. I speak from the experience of friends--that's how it works. If you think someone keeps proposing conservative movies to the studios gets called back as often as someone who proposes liberal-themed movies, no offense, but you simply have no idea what you're talking about.

As for Carrie, you're micro-analyzing--she's a religious wacko in the book and movie but in the book the abusive part is emphasized just as much, as an element of her overall abusive personality and hatred for her ex-husband; coming away from the movie you think "She's a religious wacko." The icons and candles etc. are the visual cue that religion is the SOURCE of her abusive behavior; in the book, it's more complex.

You may have left Footloose with that impression, but I will wager that 99% of people describing his character will NOT say "John Cleese played this noble misguided character" but "John Cleese played this rightwing Bible thumper nutcase who wants to ban DANCING! What a wacko!"

It's not groupthink to merely report on the herdlike behavior of Hollywood studios.

48 posted on 06/07/2005 6:45:36 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Dems, the annoying vegetarians of politics)
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To: Darkwolf377
It's actually John Lithgow not John Cleese. :-) I take a purely auteurist stance on films. Studio heads don't make movies. They don't know how frankly. The only time movies get made is when a film maker wants to make one. And like I said earlier anyone can get a movie made these days. You just have to hustle. If you're saying that there's a massive blacklist of conservative film makers and you know this from friends then that's something I honestly wouldn't have guessed. I think it's a case of conservatives not going into the business in as many numbers as are needed to redress the balance. I worked at a film school and most of the people there were on the far Left. Those are the people who are going into the film business.
49 posted on 06/07/2005 7:20:17 PM PDT by Borges
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To: Borges

True, but the percentage of people going to theaters didn't start to really fall until the style of movies started changing radically. You can see that from the fact that family oriented movies, even today, tend to do much better at the box office than 'sex' flicks.


50 posted on 06/08/2005 8:12:54 AM PDT by Frumious Bandersnatch
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