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Interesting 9th Circuit Case Oral Argument on C-Span 2; 12:33 PM EST
C-Span2 ^ | 9th Circuit Court of Appeals

Posted on 06/07/2005 9:39:12 AM PDT by BCrago66

Normally I wouldn't hype watching the 9th Circuit, but this panel includes one of favorite judges, Kozinski. It's a freedom of speech case, about a kid who wore a T-Shirt saying "Homosexuality is Shameful" to school, which is pretty unpopular speech in California.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism
KEYWORDS: dresscode; lavendermafia; ninthcircuit; tshirt

1 posted on 06/07/2005 9:39:12 AM PDT by BCrago66
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To: BCrago66

An "oral argument" in Frisco? That might prove...err..unusual.


2 posted on 06/07/2005 9:41:04 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty
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To: BCrago66

Interesting. I was aquainted with one of the judges a while ago. Wonder if she's on this panel, Judge Dorothy Nelson.


3 posted on 06/07/2005 9:42:06 AM PDT by Semper Paratus
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To: BCrago66

And I just noticed another judge on a panel is Reinhardt, a very liberal guy. But here I think both Kozinski and Reinhardt will tend to decide this kind of case in favor of free speech (while differing on, e.g., the 2nd Amendment or the Takings Clause.)


4 posted on 06/07/2005 9:42:47 AM PDT by BCrago66
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No...Reinhardt will not rule for free speech here....he is a bigger fan of homosexuals than free speech.

Also, the lawyer for the kid is just awful...awful awful awful


5 posted on 06/07/2005 9:44:25 AM PDT by watsonfellow
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To: sheik yerbouty

That's real funny, I think. Incidentally, 9th Circuit judges fly around to all the western states within the circuit to hear cases, and they also hear cases in Alaska.


6 posted on 06/07/2005 9:44:41 AM PDT by BCrago66
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Interesting. Liberal judges deciding a free speech case for speech they personally do not like.
7 posted on 06/07/2005 9:45:52 AM PDT by catonsville (If you want to make God laugh, tell him your plans for the future.)
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To: watsonfellow

He's not doing so good. I wouldn't be too judgmental; maybe he wrote a good brief but then got nervous on the big day.


8 posted on 06/07/2005 9:45:57 AM PDT by BCrago66
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To: BCrago66

Perhaps they could get lost in the tundra or park their car on muskeg.


9 posted on 06/07/2005 9:48:28 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty
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The problem is that from what I can research, he's a lawyer with a very obscure Christian pro-family group.

That's the problem...the ACLU and other leftist groups all tend to have top notch lawyers, whereas little groups like these tend not to.

No, I don't think I'm being too judgmental...he's doing awful.

They should have farmed it out to someone with some courtroom skills, this guy has none.


10 posted on 06/07/2005 9:50:12 AM PDT by watsonfellow
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To: BCrago66

I don't recall ever seeing a Federal Court hearing, at least on the appellate level, on television until now. Interesting.


11 posted on 06/07/2005 9:55:12 AM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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"This is not moot court," says Kozinski, as the guy tries to get out of answering a question by saying "I see my time is up."

You're right, the guy is bad. Maybe your diagnosis is right, and his organization is poorly funded, so this is the best they could get.


12 posted on 06/07/2005 9:55:20 AM PDT by BCrago66
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To: Republican Wildcat

i agree. kinda funny listening to Kozinski quoting GOD speaking to Abraham...

especially in context


13 posted on 06/07/2005 10:23:41 AM PDT by kpp_kpp
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