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To: stradivarius
Not sure you are disputing what I said. The critical genetic markers at issue show that both the Jews (in general, but not in every case of every individual) and today's modern Palestinian populations are very closely related to the Kurds (the ancient Medes), and not closely related to the Arabs.

I think this explains part of the "problem" of trying to live in the Levant over the last 4,000 or so years.

Many other Levantine groups only loosely identified as Caananites in more ancient times, share in the exact same origins.

30 posted on 06/06/2005 7:16:53 PM PDT by muawiyah (q)
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To: muawiyah
"Not sure you are disputing what I said. The critical genetic markers at issue show that both the Jews (in general, but not in every case of every individual) and today's modern Palestinian populations are very closely related to the Kurds (the ancient Medes), and not closely related to the Arabs."

No... Read the links I cited. The Palestinian Arabs are indistinguishable from other Arabs. Arabs have a very high genetic incidence of EU Haplotype 10, which is different from other Middle Eastern populations (Jewish, Aramaic, Kurdish, Turkish, Persian, etc.):

"In comparison with data available from other relevant populations in the region, Jews were found to be more closely related to groups in the north of the Fertile Crescent (Kurds, Turks, and Armenians) than to their Arab neighbors. The two haplogroups Eu 9 and Eu 10 constitute a major part of the Y chromosome pool in the analyzed sample. Our data suggest that Eu 9 originated in the northern part, and Eu 10 in the southern part of the Fertile Crescent. Genetic dating yielded estimates of the expansion of both haplogroups that cover the Neolithic period in the region. Palestinian Arabs and Bedouin differed from the other Middle Eastern populations studied here, mainly in specific high-frequency Eu 10 haplotypes not found in the non-Arab groups. These chromosomes might have been introduced through migrations from the Arabian Peninsula during the last two millennia."

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=11573163&query_hl=2
34 posted on 06/06/2005 7:43:02 PM PDT by stradivarius ("If a donkey brays at you, don't bray at him." - George Herbert)
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To: muawiyah

How are the genetic markers of "Palestinians" distinguished from "Jordanians" "Egyptians" "Syrians" "Kuwaitis" and "Saudi Arabians"?


65 posted on 06/07/2005 6:59:21 PM PDT by Alouette (The only thing learned from history is that nobody ever learns from history.)
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To: muawiyah; blam
Interesting info M.....really good as the Academic assay goes : )

The Hebrew/Jewish legacy is clearly redactl.
Many wig out about this....like acceding to the point is somehow betraying the Creator.

What I find fascinating is what has remained in the redactl effort...after so many 1000's and 1000's of yrs.

The Book of Jubilee's [Redactl manytimes over]..margins that a transgression occured after Noahs children went toward their inheritance.
This event survives on in record and appears to carry some legitimacy.
The deeper layer read of Avram and his journey from UR to Canaan is a legal brief and re-ascertian of right towards the initial offense which occured in some distant period prior.[ie..a certain family member went into anothers inheritance]
The next heavy...is the dualistic weave which maintains..either...OFF WORLD visitation..or interdimentional something.
which saw mankind corrupted.
The level of that corruption is recorded..and ya..fragmentary.
The Hebrews/Jews....seem to be claiming legitimacy to a land boundry,
and to an uncorrupted Blood/Spirit condition.

Some margin that the Hebrew/Jews have whipped up this novel to set themselves as special above all others.
Its everything from arrogant to raving madness and paranoia.
or it could be true....despite our current tech prowess to venture into space or read DNA.

In Jubilee's...it records Noahs children swaring oath to not return to the ways of the fallen angels...by which the judgement occured.
Noahs children sware to obey...and to also not drink Blood.
Jubilee's next records one of Noahs childrens family group heading toward their inheritance in the region we know today as Iraq.
and there...they discovered the Angelic Language etched on stone....and became corrupted in their social practice.

If this was the only record of offworld interface...I would be sceptical certainly as to their claim.
But then....a myriad of record form and myth exists [even after phenominal catastrophism]..which claims interface from beyond this Earths planetary sphere.

Rama Kingdom and Flying airships [Vimana's]...combat which is verging on plasma weaponry and atomics.
Do we have ancient Sci Fi literature surviving...or actual event occurance....which is redactl in record form?

In the Electric Universe community...their is the Expanded Earth theory.
easy to find on google..with maps showing all the continents fitting snuggly together on a much smaller Earth sphere.
E.U. margins that cored planets are not made from collapsing gas clouds...but are discharged from Suns and Gas Giants in state convulsion fully formed.
Positive mass body is expelled in a compensatory action after Galactic Electron Paturation.
The Sun,Gas Giant[Brown dwarf] are tied to Galactic current flow.
Science recently admitted that Black Holes do not exist.[E.U. said they do not exist]
Velikovsky was ridiculed as a lunatic...then Shoemaker Levy 9 occured.
Celestial catastrophism is valid.
We are just beginning to get the line on how the Universe works....it will be revision city for many moons to come.
What to make of Intelligent design,
What to make of visitors : )

Electric Universe...Velikovsky and the Jew,
# 1,2 and 3.
1 and 2 look are looking good to cover the bet spread.
Any takers on 3 : )

81 posted on 06/08/2005 1:40:19 AM PDT by Light Speed
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