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Getting to 'yes' in Europe
Boston Globe ^ | June 5, 2005 | Jeremy Rifkin

Posted on 06/05/2005 6:52:55 AM PDT by Semper Paratus

BEWARE OF first impressions, especially when it comes to European political debate. Yes, the French and Dutch public have dealt a mighty blow to the prospect of a binding constitution for all of Europe, casting doubt on the future of the European Dream.

But the French and Dutch vote on the constitution was complicated, as is usually the case with European politics. Clearly, the far right was successful in mobilizing the anti-immigrant and nationalist sentiment by arguing that a united Europe would mean opening up the floodgates to cheap foreign labor and encourage an unwelcome onslaught of Muslim immigrants.

More eurocentrism would also mean a rethinking of French and Dutch sovereignty and influence, both on the continent and in the world.

The Socialist vote, on the other hand, was more interesting, especially in France, and suggests the possibility, that the European Dream, may be entering a new stage of maturation, with profound implications for the future of Europe. Many French socialists say they voted ''no" on the constitution, not because they favored a looser Europe, but rather a more integrated Europe. They feared that the constitution put too much emphasis on the go-it-alone, liberal, winner-take-all Anglo-American market model at the expense of undermining the vision of a cohesive European social-market economy based on the European Dream of inclusivity, cultural diversity, quality of life, maintaining an adequate social net, sustainable development, social and universal human rights, and peace.

While the new constitution would facilitate market reforms, already agreed to by the French and every other EU member state as far back as the signing of the Maastricht Treaty in 1992 the treaty makes clear that Europe's commitment to a social-market economy is set in stone and is, indeed, the heart and soul of the European political experiment.

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TOPICS: Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: contitution; eu
LOL. Delusional. Liberals never take no for an answer.
1 posted on 06/05/2005 6:52:55 AM PDT by Semper Paratus
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To: Semper Paratus
Sheesh--talk about wishful thinking on the part of the writer of this bilge.
2 posted on 06/05/2005 6:54:06 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: Semper Paratus
Clearly, the far right

Only 62 words into the article, mostly 2-4 letter words at that, and the wheels fall off.

3 posted on 06/05/2005 6:56:16 AM PDT by 11Bush (If the shootin' don't start soon, I'll have to mount the Ma-Duece on my wheelchair.)
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But the French and Dutch vote on the constitution was complicated, as is usually the case with European politics.

Who'd a thunk that adopting a constitution would get complicated by politics? These socialists are sooooo sophisticated.

4 posted on 06/05/2005 6:59:38 AM PDT by Faraday
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To: Semper Paratus

Delusion is a totally inadequat world.

It is telling that this is from the "pro-homo-marriage-socialist-touting-we-love-the-ussr-communist-anti-family" boston globe. This is a NYT class paper comming to the spin rescue of the EU.

This is just covering up the truth. The simmering problems are now going to start bubling up.

If you read this, http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1416869/posts the problems are not going to be paper based. They are going to use bullets to solve the problems which have been toilet papered over with the faux union.


5 posted on 06/05/2005 7:00:19 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: Semper Paratus
suggests the possibility, that the European Dream, may be entering a new stage of maturation, with profound implications for the future of Europe.

Oh brother, delusional is right (er left. No, moderate, lets just say do post-modern). The only "maturation" that is going to help is the realization that socialism is an unworkable societal model in a world of finite resources.

6 posted on 06/05/2005 7:06:26 AM PDT by lafroste (gravity is not a force. See my profile to read my novel absolutely free (I know, beyond shameless))
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To: Semper Paratus
They feared that the constitution put too much emphasis on the go-it-alone, liberal, winner-take-all Anglo-American market model at the expense of undermining the vision of a cohesive European social-market economy based on the European Dream of inclusivity, cultural diversity, quality of life, maintaining an adequate social net, sustainable development, social and universal human rights, and peace.

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This is the Boston Globe's dream as well. For America.

7 posted on 06/05/2005 7:10:55 AM PDT by trisham ("Live Free or Die," General John Stark, July 31, 1809)
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...wishful thinking on the part of the writer of this bilge.

That's Jeremy Rifkin for you. If it weren't for a dedicated bunch of ideologues controlling what gets published, this joker couldn't get space in his local "Advertiser".

8 posted on 06/05/2005 7:11:00 AM PDT by John Valentine
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What's a measly election to a liberal. There are ways to get around that . . . Do I hear RECOUNT!!!???


9 posted on 06/05/2005 7:11:45 AM PDT by Juan Medén
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And yet the left will complain endlessly that Iraq "still" hasn't adopted a contitution after having a govenment in place for nearly six(6) months.


10 posted on 06/05/2005 7:23:52 AM PDT by Dutch Boy
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To: Semper Paratus

Another writer who is probably heavily invested in Euro currency...


11 posted on 06/05/2005 7:30:00 AM PDT by Prodigal Son
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To: Semper Paratus
There are many silly thoughts in this piece.

The citizens of Europe have never debated political issues before.

This is the beginning of European cross-class political debate.

The French want even more control of their lives than they have now, by unelected persons in Brussels. Rifkin calls it "integration" rather than central control.

Now, when European leaders want ratification of the Constitution that will set in stone both more "liberal" markets and "social"(ist) markets, is the time that they should all rejoice that the debate about whether or not they should do it is beginning.

National "containers" are inherently bad economically.

Socialism, especially international socialism, works.

But I guess the statement that got me going was this one:
Finally, lest we prematurely write off the French and Dutch ''no" vote as the beginning of the end for a greater European political experiment, remember that it took America nearly 100 years, and a bloody civil war, before our own Constitution was fully accepted by the citizens of very diverse and often differing states.

The ignorance of this paragraph is astonishing. It might be debatable that it was not "fully accepted" only if the Constitution were not amendable, or if the original 13 colonies had not ratified it, or if the states formed and admitted afterward had not agreed to observing it. This is Rifkin's ultimate silliness.

Jeremy Rifkin is the author of ''The European Dream: How Europe's Vision of the Future is Quietly Eclipsing the American Dream." This being the case, Rifkin has to believe this stuff, of course.

12 posted on 06/05/2005 8:00:57 AM PDT by TheGeezer
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Do the French and Dutch people really believe that their children's future prosperity and happiness rests in falling back into the stifling confines of the little French and Dutch national containers, or in creating an expansive, open European continent with vast new opportunities to live out the European Dream?

Rifkin has made a career out of buzzing around lefty trends like a fly at a manure pile. This soaring piece of rhetoric however crosses the threshold into the political equivalent of Michael Jackson's Neverland.

13 posted on 06/05/2005 8:03:01 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Semper Paratus

Blimey. Is he angling for a job with Chirac?

Regards, Ivan


14 posted on 06/05/2005 8:08:15 AM PDT by MadIvan (You underestimate the power of the Dark Side - http://www.sithorder.com/)
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To: Semper Paratus

I think it was Glenn Reynolds that said the other day: You can't go far wrong by betting against Jeremy Rifkin. He is perhaps the world's leading contraindicator.


15 posted on 06/05/2005 8:16:50 AM PDT by Faraday
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To: trisham

"...social and universal human rights"? What can that possibly mean? Does Rifkin get paid by the word?


16 posted on 06/05/2005 8:27:05 AM PDT by RedRover (Unfortunately, I live near the Clintons.)
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To: Faraday
You can't go far wrong by betting against Jeremy Rifkin. He is perhaps the world's leading contraindicator.

Wonder what his reccomendations are for energy based equities?

17 posted on 06/05/2005 8:59:38 AM PDT by Semper Paratus
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To: RedRover
Does Rifkin get paid by the word?

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LOL! Sounds like it, doesn't it?

18 posted on 06/05/2005 2:29:48 PM PDT by trisham ("Live Free or Die," General John Stark, July 31, 1809)
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To: Semper Paratus
I have a suggestion for a European Constitution. It starts off "We the people...."

Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)

LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)

19 posted on 06/05/2005 2:41:26 PM PDT by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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