Posted on 06/05/2005 5:13:43 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
Kudos for FOX.
Now I must leave, so I will catch up with the thread later on today.
I turned Nader off. He hasn't done anything constructive, and I am very sick of this unending debate on why we went to war.I thougt we debated it for 15 months before we did it, and some people can't talk about anything else. Seems to me we should turn what they said about Shiavo on them. "It was decided. You just don't like the decision." I can't imagine anything worse than to get eternally fixated on something that happned two years ago, instead of moving forward.
Wallace really tore into this commie bastard from Shamnesty USA!! Wallace told him his charges were nothing but Bush-bashing, anti-American rhetoric, and then brought up the fact they donated $2000 to sKerrys 2004 campaign, and $1000 so far to Ted "The snorkeler" Kennedy's current re-election campaign. The bastard had no anwser other than "My politics have noting to do with Amnesty International's positions... They're set by our HQ in London". As if european socialists are completely unbiased about American foriegn policy. Riiiight.
Oooooooo I don't get FNS until later today (5pm) I CAN'T WAIT to see that!!
Was it WILLIAM SCHULZ?
He then implied without the extreme rhetoric, Fox would not have invited him on!
Mathews had Evan Thomas on Hardball. When Thomas tried to tie Bush with Nixon, others on the panel (including Mathews) got scared & neglected him completely thereafter.
I like that. Thanks for the quote.
Richard Ben-Veniste was allowed to go on and on. They had Liddy muzzled. What a waste of viewing time and it once again reminded me of why I don't like Chris Wallace.
Have fun catch you later
Always remember who Chris Wallace's daddy is.
I think, however, the bottom line on this issue _ and a great many others - is how successful the Lefts agitprop machinery is. They seem to feel that they were merely not as hard working and as clever as they should have been prior to this year. They seem to think that they underestimated the Right last time around and that they better not do that again. ANd underneath it all is the notion that the electorate is still stupid, we just did not scare them enough and the lies were pitched wrongly.
Is this so?
Is that the case, or has the electorate moved on? Has the electorate seen through them. We will not understand this through the media's own presentations. We will understand this at the ballot box.
I really think that at this point it is anyones guess.
I do think that it is heartening to see the results of the Dutch and French votes of last week. Whatever on feels about the EU Constitution and the direction of the EU, one has to admit that the media headwind in Europe was so strongly for the EU that one would have thought even 6 months ago that the notion France rejecting it was almost in the realm of Science Fiction.
I know that it is the EU. But it shows me that the media games of the Establishment Left are beginning to crack.
Again, time will tell. It is up tho the GOP to speak to the American people over the heads of the media just as R. Reagan did. It is possible to do so.
The comparison to Russian gulags was a nice touch/S
Amnesty International are further left than socialist IMHO
Nader refers to major military powers that are able to challenge the US military. What he fails to mention is he opposes the US military and would dismantle it given the chance.
Yes it was.
I am enjoying all the worms involved in Watergate as they appear on the tube, beat their collective breasts and declare the "seriousness" of Watergate.
I was but a young and new voter during the era of Watergate. I was also very liberal, not that I'm proud of this fact.
Indeed I voted for George McGovern, another fact I'm not proud of.
I remember sitting in front of the TV on election night and really believing, really, really, really truly believing that McGovern would win. I thought that in the end the American public would see the truth as I saw it and surprise the pollsters.
Anyway, I was in a long term relationship with a fellow who was a conservative in the extreme. I remember putting a sticker on my car: "Don't blame me, I didn't vote for him."
Referring to Nixon of course.
My conservative boyfriend ripped the sticker off my car and screeched off from my house.
But even then I couldn't find much of nothing in Watergate, yes even in my overwhelming liberal zeal. Although at the time there were only three networks and I had only one newspaper, the Baltimore Sun a liberal rag, to consult.
Now, in this day of Rush and the Internet, I discover that I was right. At the time it all seemed a big brouhaha over nothing and now I realize that it was!
Although, again and ahem, I did take great pride that I hadn't voted for Nixon because hey, in those days it was all liberals had. I do remember thinking that well, even if what I read shows much of nothing there HAD to something more to it than a politician leaning on members of his administration to hide an investigation into one of the most inept breakins of all time.
I remember thinking that even if I can't find a big deal in it all, and yes I listened to the Watergate hearings, etc, that if it was enough to bring down a President then I would be smug via bumper stickers et al.
Now I realize I was right at the time but didn't trust myself because hey, the mighty WAPO said so and surely they know more than me.
Now, years later, with the scales having fallen from my eyes, I see the entire Watergate scandal for what it was.
A pathetic political witch hunt to bring down a Republican President for crimes far less than Kennedy and Johnson.
The entire matter changed the course of history and not for the better. Witness Jimmy Carter.
I'm bitter for having been fooled and I'm bitter that it's all a big pile of crap that changed lives because one haughty newspaper and two creepy reporters, helped by one sour FBI agent, created a scandal.
Also, and finally for I have waxed on enough, I lived through the crimes of Bill Clinton and this makes me very cynical.
Which is why all the breast-beating by the Watergate participants.
We've lived through Clinton and he was waaaaay worse than Nixon. Thus they are struggling to maintain and relive their relevance.
This ain't 1972 any more Dorothy.
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