[forester]

It is when a crisis approaches, that the true strength of a Democracy emerges – and it is an awesome thing. One by one, individual citizens sense the approach of a common danger and they rise to the occasion. One by one, people begin putting aside their daily cares and daily pleasures and begin to engage in their classic role as citizens – not because they want to, but because they have to – because the situation has become intolerable and can no longer be ignored.

And that process begins in groups like this, groups that gather not around politicians and not around parties, but around principles – solid principles – and the most solid principle of all – Freedom.

Excellent points. Follows up his speach a few weeks back about how the mood is beginning to shift.

The liberals days are numbered - so are the rino's.... people are getting fed up with the corruption. The baby boomers idealism is not shared by many of us in generation X. Frankly, we are pretty fed up with their crap. State employees retiring with 80-90% salary is way over the line.

Just as the United Airline and steel industry folks got their pensions slashed, there will come a day when I and my children will vote to lower these pensions. Not as revenge, but as a necessity. It may not be tomorrow, but it most assuredly will happen.

[Black Tooth]

Just as the United Airline and steel industry folks got their pensions slashed, there will come a day when I and my children will vote to lower these pensions.

Not only do away with king sized, public servant pensions, completely get rid of public unions. They are corrupt to the bone, and they are consuming the tax payers..