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'Deep Throat' uncut
Washington Times ^ | June 3, 2005 | By Gary Aldrich

Posted on 06/04/2005 1:15:20 AM PDT by Jim Robinson

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To: BIGLOOK
Woodward apparently was in the NSG......????

"Now I'm really in the mood for keelhauling!"

When I read that, this week, I was ready to be keelhauled! I will try to find the reference for you.

61 posted on 06/04/2005 10:18:46 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (The MSM has been a WMD, Weapon of Mass Disinformation for the Rats for at least 5 decades.)
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To: B.Bumbleberry

ush said earlier this week ‘No one knows why they broke in the Watergate’ well he hasn’t read “The Amendment” by John Fitzgerald. It was a lot more than just the Watergate. The media was played like a cheap fiddle. Woodward was rejected by the Post. The office joke was English was his second language. He was sent to a little paper in the burgs then a few weeks before Watergate he was brought back to the Post. There’s a lot more to the story the MSM is covering.


62 posted on 06/04/2005 10:21:18 AM PDT by bondsman
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To: BIGLOOK; Howlin; kcvl; ASA Vet

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1415502/posts?page=238#238

In his 1987 book, Veil, Woodward claimed he had interviewed William J. Casey, the CIA director, after Casey had brain surgery and could not speak intelligibly. Woodward didn’t know that, and he made up an interview in which Casey is supposed to have spoken 19 intelligible words. It was clear that this was a falsification not only because of Casey’s condition, but because his hospital room was guarded and Woodward was never admitted to it.

Another Woodward technique is to get information in confidence and break his pledge not to report it in a way that reveals the source. His new book includes statements Hillary Clinton made to Jane Sherburne, a former assistant White House counsel. Sherburne, who is identified in the book as the source, has said in a deposition taken by Judicial Watch that she gave Woodward details of these private conversations on the condition that they not be quoted directly.

Sherburne said Woodward had called just before his book was published to tell her that he had included her one-on-one conversations with Hillary in the book because he had been able to confirm them with other sources. Will Woodward’s employer and peers forgive this betrayal of Sherburne and breach of journalistic ethics as they did his lie about Bill Casey?








Although it would answer a lot of questions that have been raised about Bob Woodward, at this point one can only speculate as to whether he was offered the chance to become a "double-wallet guy," as CIA agents who have two identities are dubbed. It would certainly be understandable if he decided not to adhere to the straight and accepted the submerged patriotic glamour and extra funds that such a relationship would provide. It would also explain the comments of Pulitzer Prize-winning author J. Anthony Lukas, when he wrote in 1989 that Bob Woodward was "temperamentally secretive, loathe to volunteer information about himself," or the Washingtonian's remarks in 1987: "He is secretive about everything." As Esquire magazine put it, summing up in its 1992 article on Bob, "What is he hiding?"

Three days after graduating from Yale, Woodward was sent by the U.S. Navy to Norfolk, Virginia, where he was commissioned as an ensign by none other than U.S. Senator George Smathers from Florida. Bob's assignment was to a very special ship, called a "floating Pentagon," the U.S.S. Wright. The ship was a National Emergency Command Ship-a place where a President and cabinet could preside from in the event of a nuclear war. It had elaborate and sophisticated communications and data processing capabilities. It had a smaller replica of the war room at the Pentagon. It ran under what was called SIOP-Single Integrated Operation Plan. For example, in the event of nuclear war, the Wright was third in line to take full command if the two ahead of it, the Strategic Air Command in Omaha (SAC) and NORAD, were rendered incommunicado. Woodward-straightfacedly-told authors Colodny and Gettlin (Silent Coup) that he guessed he was picked for the ship because he had been a radio ham as a kid.

Aboard the Wright, Woodward had top secret "crypto" clearance-the same clearance researcher Harold Weisberg found had been assigned to Lee Harvey Oswald when he was himself in the Marines. Such clearance in Woodward's case gave him full access to nearly all classified materials and codes on the ship. Woodward also ran the ship's newspaper. Woodward has insisted that possessing a high security clearance is not necessarily indicative of intelligence work.

The Wright carried men from each of the military services, as well as CIA personnel. One of Havill's government sources reported that the CIA would likely have had additional informants on a ship of such sensitivity, adding that "the rivalry between the services was intense."

After a two and a half year stint on the Wright, Woodward was assigned to go to Vietnam. Woodward wrote the Pentagon asking to serve on a destroyer. The wish was granted. One naval captain told Havill that it seemed reasonable Woodward would have a little pull from his previous duty to avoid getting assigned to Vietnam. Another former naval officer disputed that, saying "Nobody got out of going to Vietnam in 1968."

But Woodward did. He was stationed aboard the U.S.S. Fox, based in Southern California. The personnel on board the Fox included an intelligence team, many of whom had studied Russian and Asian languages at the famous armed services language school in Monterey, California.

By 1968, Woodward ran the ship's radio team. In 1969, Woodward was awarded the Navy Commendation Medal for his communications work. From there, Woodward moved on to a Pentagon assignment, a job that included briefing top officers in the government. Admiral Thomas Moorer and former secretary of defense Melvin Laird are both on record noting that Woodward briefed Al Haig at the White House during this period. What is suspicious is Woodward's semi-admittance to Hougan that he had done some briefing, and his complete denial to Colodny and Gettlin that he had ever briefed anyone at the White House. Havill notes:

Considering the evidence, Bob Woodward's denial more strongly suggests intelligence than it does his uninvolvement in White House briefings.

Woodward's secrecy about his past, his choice of associates, and what is known of his activities caused Havill to write:

The question, then, begs itself once more. Was Bob Woodward ever a free-lance or retained Central Intelligence Agency liaison officer, informant or operative . . . ? This author got various forms of affirmative opinions from intelligence experts. It would explain his assignment to the Wright and his misleading statements to interviewers. It would make understandable his being able to get out of going to Vietnam in 1968, his extension for an additional year at the Pentagon, his being chosen to brief at the White House and his denials as well. It would also help explain his subsequent high-level friendships with leaders of the U.S. military and the CIA.

It would also explain the role Woodward and Bernstein wittingly or unwittingly played in keeping the CIA's nose clean while making sure the world saw the President's nose was dirty.
The Legacy of Deep Throat

Whatever his background, whatever his connections, one cannot trust what Woodward says as fact. Take, for instance, his account in Veil of his last interview with dying CIA Director William Casey. Havill tracked down Casey's family, friends, hospital security staff and CIA guardians and found that the visit Woodward described was impossible. First of all, Casey was under 24 hour guard by several layers of security: CIA members, hospital security, and Casey's family. And Woodward had already been stopped once while trying to see Casey. According to one of Havill's sources, Woodward was not merely asked to leave, as Woodward reported in his book, but was forcibly shoved into the elevator. And Woodward's story kept shifting. Woodward told a Knight-Ridder reporter that he had gotten in by flashing his press pass. To Larry King, Woodward claimed he just "walked in." But even assuming he somehow managed to get by all of that security, Woodward would still have been the only person to claim that Casey had uttered intelligible words in those last hours. The only other person to make such a claim was Robert Gates, who himself became CIA Director. The family, doctor and medical staff said Casey could not make words at this point, only noises. At least Gates questioned whether he might have been imagining he heard words. Woodward has never retracted his "conversation." In addition, Woodward once said that Casey sat bolt upright, which would seem highly implausible given his rapidly deteriorating state. Onetime CIA Director Stansfield Turner, a friend of Woodward's since 1966, said Woodward told him he'd walked by Casey's room and Casey had waved to him. Casey's bed was positioned in such a way in the room as to make that impossible too.

Likewise, Woodward does not seem to demand authenticity from subordinates. Under his watch as Assistant Managing Editor of the Metro desk, the Post suffered a humiliation of the highest proportions at the hands of one of his hires, Janet Cooke. It was this incident that knocked the Post from its perch as "America's leading newspaper," as it had been called in the wake of its Watergate reporting.

Janet Cooke was a gifted writer with a knack for capturing the essence of the streets of D.C. She went to the Post for a job, and Woodward hired her. More illustrator than reporter, she painted vivid images, if not entirely accurate ones. The latter trait soon brought her trouble.

Cooke's crowning glory-and worst disaster-was a story called "Jimmy's World," about an eight year old heroin addict. The story brought both praise and outrage: praise for the vivid writing, outrage that a reporter could just stand by and watch a kid taking drugs. The controversial story managed to earn a Pulitzer, but only after some arm twisting by the committee head, who overruled the committee's first choice for the prizewinner to pick "Jimmy's World." Some of the committee members hadn't even read the story, but not wanting to appear divisive, they stood together, for better or for worse. Made bold by the award, Janet Cooke's fabrications grew even larger and more personal. She started making up a history for herself that she didn't possess, including training in languages she couldn't speak. Several at the Post, including Woodward, were worried that her story of Jimmy may not be true. They pressured Cooke to produce "Jimmy." Losing the battle to protect her source, it rapidly became clear that she had no source. There was no Jimmy. And for the first time ever, a Pulitzer was returned. The Post was thoroughly embarrassed by a woman under Woodward's direct supervision at the paper.

But Woodward's most stunning deceptions come from the work that launched his career, his tracking of the Watergate story as retold in the supposedly nonfiction work All the President's Men. Adrian Havill found curious discrepancies between accountings of incidents as reported in the book, and the rest of the available facts (see sidebar at right).

Given his role in the Watergate cover-up, and the misrepresentations in his own work, it remains to us a huge mystery why this man is treated with the reverence he is. Considering his behavior, his background, his credibility, and his connections, we now feel compelled to join Adrian Havill in asking who is Bob Woodward? Whom does he serve? Is his career sustained for the purposes of those with a "secret agenda"?

The Deceptions of All the President's Men

Had the book been presented as fiction, readers could not complain. However, the book sits on non-fiction shelves around the world. Maybe it shouldn't.

In his book Deep Truth, author Adrian Havill presents several events in All the President's Men that are, to put it generously, highly suspect. One example is the scene in which Woodward and Bernstein have made their first egregious mistake. They sourced Hugh Sloan's grand jury testimony for a story that Sloan had never told the Grand Jury, showing that Haldeman was one of the inner group at CREEP controlling the mysterious slush fund. In the book, the dejected Woodward and Bernstein walk home in the rain, beaten both physically and symbolically by the elements, with only newspapers over their head to keep them dry. Havill did some checking. It never rained that day. That might seem an inconsequential detail to some, but others will understand that it was a device created to bring drama. How many other "events" were merely fictional devices? Havill found several. For instance, at one point, Carl Bernstein is about to be subpoenaed by CREEP, and Ben Bradlee advised Carl to go hang out at a movie until after 5:00 p.m., then to call into the office. According to the book, Carl went to see Deep Throat, hence the reason for the name "Deep Throat" having been given to Woodward's secret source. But there was no Deep Throat playing anywhere in D.C. at that time. In fact, the theaters were being very cautious, having recently been raided by law enforcement authorities. Not one theater in town was showing Deep Throat.

And speaking of "Deep Throat" . . .

One of the most astonishingly bald-faced inventions was the process by which Woodward and "Deep Throat" allegedly made contact when they needed to speak to one another. In the book, much is made of the spooky, clandestine meetings between "Deep Throat" and Woodward. When Woodward needed to ask "Deep Throat" something, he was to put a flower pot with a red flag in it on his sixth floor balcony, which, we are supposed to believe, this high level source checked daily. When "Deep Throat" wanted to speak to Woodward, a clock would supposedly be drawn in his copy of the New York Times designating the meeting time. But neither of these scenarios fits the reality of where Woodward lived. Woodward, who could remember the exact room number (710) where he met Martha Mitchell just once, evidently had trouble remembering the address at which he had lived. In an interview he once said it was "606 or 608 or 612, something like that." However, Havill found that Woodward's actual address was 617. This is important, because the balcony attached to 617 faced an interior courtyard. Havill poked around and found that the only way to view a flower pot on the balcony was to walk into the center of the complex, with eighty units viewing you, crane your neck and look up to the sixth floor. Even then, a pot would have been barely visible. There was an alley that ran behind the building that allowed a glimpse of the apartment and balcony, but at an equally difficult angle. And in both cases, we are to believe that this source, who strove hard to protect his identify, would walk up in plain view of the eighty apartments facing the inner courtyard or the alley on a daily basis, on the chance that there might be a sign from Woodward. When Havill tried to poke around, just to look at the place, residents of the building stopped him and inquired who he was and what he was looking for. Unless "Deep Throat" was well known to the residents of the building, his daily visits seem to preclude being able to keep his identity a secret.

As for the clock-in-the-paper, the New York Times papers were delivered not to each door, but left stacked and unmarked in a common reception area. There was no way "Deep Throat" could have known which paper Woodward would end up with each morning.






238 posted on 06/02/2005 11:17:03 PM PDT by Howlin (Up or down on Janice Brown!)


63 posted on 06/04/2005 10:31:53 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (The MSM has been a WMD, Weapon of Mass Disinformation for the Rats for at least 5 decades.)
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To: Grampa Dave; Howlin
Very enlightening, Dave! And thanks, Howlin!
64 posted on 06/04/2005 10:56:45 AM PDT by BIGLOOK (I once opposed keelhauling but recently have come to my senses.)
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To: BIGLOOK

Did you get the picture thing to work?


65 posted on 06/04/2005 10:57:59 AM PDT by Howlin (Up or down on Janice Brown!)
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To: Howlin
No, I've got fall back and regroup.

My experience with computers goes back a ways but has been limited to inventory, analysis, general business. I've only had a PC for a year and a half. I was told by a friend that my learning curve would go up. My learning curve looks more like a chart of the Dow-Jones Average.

66 posted on 06/04/2005 11:24:54 AM PDT by BIGLOOK (I once opposed keelhauling but recently have come to my senses.)
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To: Doc Savage
I've know Woodward for 50 years now. I walked to high school with him almost every day down Main Street in Wheaton. He was a dork then, and I mean a dork before the word became slang, and he's an even bigger dork now!

Now he is a very rich dork with an ego the size of Alaska.

67 posted on 06/04/2005 1:08:54 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: virgil

I think any man who is 91 is going to have problems remembering things. But I still believe Woodward is nervous about Felt contradicting him on facts from the Watergate story. Felt already said the whole cloak and dagger "flags in the flower pot" and "clocks drawn on page 20 of the New York Times" were figments of Woodward's imagination. Good ole' Bob won't like that kind of talk, even if it can be quickly dismissed as Felt being a bit senile.


68 posted on 06/04/2005 1:12:22 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: SkyPilot
When porn peddler Larry Flynt offered a million dollars to anyone who would tell of sexual escapades with a congressmen it caused a flurry in the MSM. Hundreds came forward with stories about democrat infidelities. Flynt was forced to announced the payment was only to catch Republicans. The MSM looked the other way -- and now we know why.

Felt chose Woodward and Bernstien for several reasons but the most important was lack of experience. He assumed inexperienced reporters wouldn't ask too many questions about secondary agendas. Felt knew the elders at the Post wouldn't get involved in the early stories. He wouldn't want his motives questioned by seasoned reporters. But it was an unnecessary concern.

The Post, like Larry Flynt, didn't care as long as the information hurt Republicans. Seasoned reporters, not seasoned reporters, it didn't matter. It was dirt on a Republican and that's all that mattered.

If this type of material had been leaked about a Democrat, the story would have been about outing the leaker.

Would the MSM have outed Kennedy if they knew he was jeopardizing national security by working with the Mob or assisting with voter fraud in Chicago? Had an undercover FBI official come to them with that news, they would have ignored the story. Or likes a common porn peddlers, would the MSM invoke a double standard?

69 posted on 06/04/2005 2:29:33 PM PDT by GOPJ
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To: Grampa Dave

Thanks....looks like we all are gonna need a speed reading course....


70 posted on 06/04/2005 2:30:08 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (This tagline no longer operative....floated away in the flood of 2005 ,)
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To: Jim Noble
I'm inclined to think the answers to the first two questions are yes and yes.

The way I see it, it's yes and no.

I view Nixon in a generally positive way, and believe that his faults were minor when compared to the DemoRat left leaders in America at that time. In fact, I believe the hateful description of Nixon by the left to this day was and is projection, they are describing their own leadership and values and assigning them to Nixon.

The DemocRat left couldn't stand that they started the war that caused their President (Johnson) to be hated so universally that he had no chance of winning re-election, thus gifting the Presidency to the same Nixon that they had so deftly stolen the 60 election from and ruined. The Rat left has never figured out that the communists just use them when convenient like Viet Nam. The communists arranged for the Rats to be hated if they won in 'Nam, and if they elected to lose, hated for that by mainstream America. Lose-lose for the Rats. Nixon on the other hand had a chance to win, guaranteeing Pubbie administrations for a long while. Solution: Rat treason to secure loss in 'Nam and disgrace Nixon and Pubbies and turnover the White house. Vehicle: the MSM and selfish egotist Felt, traitor in wartime for a personal vendetta. Note that this would not have worked if Cronkite, Woodward and Bernstein were patriots, and what a different world it would be.

71 posted on 06/04/2005 3:12:50 PM PDT by Navy Patriot
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To: Navy Patriot
I think the vituperation directed at RMN happened for exactly the reasons you suggest.

It's unfair that he paid the price (given the crimes of Johnson and Clinton)-but it's not necessarily unjust. The law enforcement agencies of the Feds should not be at the beck and call of the President to ruin his enemies-whoever is President.

It seems pretty clear that Nixon in fact did the things he was accused of.

72 posted on 06/04/2005 4:06:47 PM PDT by Jim Noble (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God)
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To: EdHallick

Very good post.


73 posted on 06/04/2005 4:11:38 PM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: SkyPilot

Let's not forget Bernstein is a red diaper baby.


74 posted on 06/04/2005 4:14:11 PM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: GOPJ
When porn peddler Larry Flynt offered a million dollars to anyone who would tell of sexual escapades with a congressmen it caused a flurry in the MSM. Hundreds came forward with stories about democrat infidelities. Flynt was forced to announced the payment was only to catch Republicans. The MSM looked the other way.

I remember that. I was so angry I was shouting at the TV.

75 posted on 06/04/2005 5:12:32 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
Was he? It wouldn't surprise me. Kerry was a red diaper baby too (his father was a leftist in the State Dept).

What is it with these people?

76 posted on 06/04/2005 5:13:33 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: Navy Patriot

"Felt is no hero, and received a pardon he didn't deserve.
His was a personal unlawful retaliation against Nixon, and he knows it.

In addition, Ben Stein suggests that Felt's destruction of Nixons ability to lead caused massive death in Vietnam and Cambodia as Nixon was forced to close the Viet Nam war. A theory I do not disagree with."

The VN war was "lost" due to the de-funding of the SVN forces by the Democrat congress. Were it a Republican controlled Congress, I would have capitalized the word congress.



77 posted on 06/04/2005 8:10:04 PM PDT by Chu Gary (USN Intel guy 1967 - 1970)
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To: Saundra Duffy

"Felt's destruction of Nixons ability to lead caused massive death in Vietnam and Cambodia as Nixon was forced to close the Viet Nam war

Yikes!"

Navy Patriot is exactly right; 2 - 4 million in VN were exterminated and countless more thrown into "re-education camps". Those camps could also be called concentration camps, 15 - 20 years.

The Dem pull of funding also paved the way for Pol Pot in Cambodia who killed, at minimum, 2 million, perhaps lots more. You've heard of the killing fields, right?


78 posted on 06/04/2005 8:27:17 PM PDT by Chu Gary (USN Intel guy 1967 - 1970)
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To: SkyPilot
I remember that. I was so angry I was shouting at the TV.

You weren't alone, both of us were shouting at the TV...

79 posted on 06/04/2005 8:36:19 PM PDT by GOPJ
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To: Jim Robinson; PhilDragoo; Liz; onyx; Happy2BMe; potlatch; devolve; MEG33; Grampa Dave; Lady Jag; ...
bump / ping!


80 posted on 06/04/2005 9:03:00 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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