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To: AndrewC
"Your attempt to shift definitions won't work. Communist China presently oppresses as did the Khmer Rouge. Your further attempt to lay blame at the feet of others won't work. It is you, Randi, and Stalin that are birds of a feather. If you wish to add additional "book burners", go ahead, you still remain a member of that elite group."

Andrew, you are the one shifting definitions by making one group's actions in book burning carry more weight than others simply through the numbers of its population.

Following the advice of Li Si, Qin Shi Huang ordered all philosophy books and history books from states other than Qin --except copies in the imperial library for official uses--to be burned. 212 BC This is accompanied by the live burial of a large number of intellectuals, who did not comply with the state dogma.

Many of them also which used curious arts brought their books together, and burned them before all men: and they counted the price of them, and found it fifty thousand pieces of silver. Acts 19:19

Sibylline Books were burnt by Flavius Stilicho (died AD 408).

The books of Arius and his followers, after first Council of Nicaea (AD 325), for heresy.

The library of the Serapeum in Alexandria, trashed, burned and looted by Christians, AD 392], encouraged by their bishop.

The books of Nestorius, a Syrian who was a Christian bishop and Patriarch of Constantinople in the early fifth century; one of the major heresies concerning the doctrine of Christ was named after him (died in 451), after an edict of Theodosius II, heresy (AD 435).

In 1233 Maimonides, a Spanish philosopher considered the greatest Jewish scholar of the Middle Ages who codified Jewish law in the Talmud (1135-1204), book "Guide of the Perplexed" was burnt at Montpellier, Southern France.

In the 1480s Tomas Torquemada promoted the burning of non-Catholic literature, especially Jewish Talmuds and, after the final defeat of the Moors at Granada in 1492, Arabic books also.

In 1497 the Bonfire of the Vanities, preached by Girolamo Savonarola, Italian religious and political reformer; a Dominican friar in Florence who preached against sin and corruption and gained a large following; he expelled the Medici from Florence but was later excommunicated and executed for criticizing the Pope (1452-1498), consumed pornography, lewd pictures, pagan books, gaming tables, cosmetics, copies of Boccaccio's Decameron, and all the works of Ovid which could be found in Florence.

In 1918 the Valley of the Squinting Windows in Delvin, Ireland and Northern Ireland.

The works of Jewish authors and other "degenerate" books were burned by the Nazis in the 1930s and 1940s.

May 10, 1933 in the Opernplatz, Berlin, Germany, SA troops and student groups burn over 20,000 books, including works by Thomas Mann, Erich Maria Remarque, Karl Marx and H.G. Wells.

The Satanic Verses, burnt by Muslims who considered it blasphemous.

Harry Potter books, burnt by American Christians who considered them satanic.

For your information I have over a thousand books in my home and have never thrown a book out let alone burned one. My belief that ID is a psuedo-science that should not be taught in schools and should be exposed for what it is, does in no way make me a book burner. I am no more (probably less) a book burner than those here who would like to remove evolution from the education system.

335 posted on 06/13/2005 9:13:55 AM PDT by b_sharp (Science adjusts theories to fit evidence, creationism distorts evidence to fit the Bible.)
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To: b_sharp
Andrew, you are the one shifting definitions by making one group's actions in book burning carry more weight than others simply through the numbers of its population.

Doesn't matter how many are in the group, the point is they wish to suppress. That is what Randi wants to do and what you support. The only reason for Randi's payment is to suppress the expression of an idea.

I have multiple copies of "Origin of Species" in my home.

336 posted on 06/13/2005 9:19:32 AM PDT by AndrewC (Darwinian logic -- It is just-so if it is just-so)
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