Posted on 06/03/2005 5:26:31 PM PDT by 4.1O dana super trac pak
Edited on 06/03/2005 5:32:39 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
I'm not talking about their comfort. I'm talking about putting food on the table for their families.
Or are they supposed to put their families on welfare so they can don cammies and tote a rifle all day?<<<<
Some people can afford to do this, some can not. Those who can not afford to will not. I can't afford to, so I intend to support those that do.
There are nat-sayers, and there are those who find a way to get things done. I prefer to do what I can, not whine about what I cant do!
Our Government should be able to afford to pay a Militia anyway..it is the job of the Government to protect the people. If the Government can't afford a Militia, then they are spending too much somewhere else.
Cheer up! This will work out.
Yup, and you're having an orgasm over Representative King's announcement, even as he makes it clear that you're going to have to hold a bake sale to fund this thing because he sure as hell won't.
Then you have inland patrols that will catch another 10 percent or so.
And then you place harsh penalties on companies that repeatedly hire illegal aliens. And cut off illegals from educational and all but emergency medicine - and they get deported afterwards if they do get emergency help.
In other words, you make it a losing proposition to come here illegally.
"You don't need 25 guards per mile. You need a wall with guards"
Good luck building a wall in my corner of San Diego County. You planning on hiring a s**tload of coolie labor to haul the materials in? (A large chunk of the border trace is NOT traversable by vehicle, nor accessible to construction equipment, but is rather easily traveled on foot.)
The Happy Hemisphere is the one faint hope that we can make conditions better down on that Mexican farm/Guatemala village, so that population stays home. (Unusual numbers of illegals from non-Hispanic countries are showing up, too. We're awfully popular for the most hated country in the history of the world.) Laudable, but problematical and perhaps impossible.
I sympathize with countries sick of American culture, ideas, and what seems arrogance. I wouldn't like MTV forced down my throat, either. But the opposite is true, and with huge numbers of Hispanic illegals, their culture, language, mores, customs are being imposed on us willy nilly, (I've seen countless tv ads promoting a Spanish language DVD and none promoting English -- but perhaps that's shown on Spanish channels), plus we're paying through the nose for that privilege. Somebody in the admin. should have figured this might happen, a worst nightmare scenario -- it's elementary, positive reinforcement on a colossal scale. Pavlov's dog salivating at the bell. (No offense intended. Simple truth.) So what do we do when everybody from everywhere else has arrived, move to Mars?
As opposed to the costs of letting in illegals?
In the words of John Kerry, 'It's complicated.'. And for once he's right.
"As opposed to the costs of letting in illegals?"
The illegals are likely to be the only source of sober, ontime, productive labor that can actually build your proposed wall within a reasonable price tag.
Look, all I am pointing out is that any solution is going to cost money--and the Congresscritters spouting off on the subject are the very same who have voted to not spend the money needed.
"So what do we do when everybody from everywhere else has arrived, move to Mars?"
That my friend is the future of western civilization. Seriously
Oh, I bet we could find plenty of legal workers. Especially if they are paid non-illegal wages.
Look, all I am pointing out is that any solution is going to cost money--and the Congresscritters spouting off on the subject are the very same who have voted to not spend the money needed.
Uh, the process has just started. Give the reps time to see what actually has a chance of passage, and then figure out the cost at that point.
The guard is not the answer. Guardsmen are inactive, live civilian lives until called up. Put the guard on permenant duty, and watch your recruitment evaporate.
"Oh, I bet we could find plenty of legal workers. Especially if they are paid non-illegal wages."
Remember the part about a reasonable price tag?
Well, I see you wrote that off.
What I'm telling you is that the wall is going to require the workers to hump in EVERYTHING to build the wall, including the bricks.
"Uh, the process has just started. Give the reps time to see what actually has a chance of passage, and then figure out the cost at that point."
King has been part of the process to cut our military to the bone prior to this sudden interest in having the military illegal immigration.
"The guard is not the answer. Guardsmen are inactive, live civilian lives until called up. Put the guard on permenant duty, and watch your recruitment evaporate."
Like it's doing right now.
We're paying it already. So I'm less worried about "reasonable" and more concerned about "friggin' doing something" to address the issue.
King has been part of the process to cut our military to the bone prior to this sudden interest in having the military illegal immigration.
Well, we'll see just how serious he is now.
You might have something there. If every border crosser caught, was given a proctology exam before being returned home....nah...nevermind...I'm sounding just like the kooks.
"Well, we'll see just how serious he is now."
Since he didn't propose any increase in military manpower to cover the new mission, I am forced to conclude that he's about as serious as Hillary Clinton on this topic.
You're one of those instigator types.
With the internet, CNN, Fox, Hollywood's version of American life shown around the world on a daily basis, the ease of international travel, why would anyone with half a brain living in a hellhole stay there? The answer is, more and more don't. They're streaming across our southern borders, crammed in box cars -- you name it, they've come up with a scheme to get here. They walk here from Costa Rica. Two years and a lot of shoe leather, but they got here and aren't leaving.
They want the American dream, simple as that, and any way they can get it. We're burdened with a PC culture, too, so that makes kicking them all out without hope of return is not on. (Hence the Bush plan to regularize their status.) Plus, unless some crackpot Islamofascist blows up LA or whatever, militarizing the borders will be distasteful to many. They're still enamoured of Emma Lazarus's poem at the foot of the statue of liberty. (That was then, however, and this is now.) Oh well, go buy a refrigerator or better yet, a car. Nothing to see here, move right along.
It could be done, easily. A secure border is not complicated or rocket science. By the way how many illegals work for you?
The "it's too hard to do" crowd needs a new mantra. That one is not working, never did work.
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