[Paleo Conservative]

Of course Leahy says this as the A380 program will be delayed another 6 months and Airbus is havin difficulty meeting its promised performance.

[Paleo Conservative]

Ping!

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[Pukin Dog]

What a huge load of bull. There is no peer for the 777, and if there ever is one in the future, it wont come from Europe.

[Righty_McRight]

Speaking of the 777. It looks like ANA will place an order for around 53 777-300ER's next year to replace all it's 747's, and older 777's. There is a Bloomberg story all about it, but we can't link to that site.

[DuncanWaring]

"I'm now getting an airplane out there that is more than competitive with the 787, and you will see orders very soon,...

... if we have to place them ourselves"

[Righty_McRight]

Qatar and Emirates are big rivals I hear. So I hope Qatar goes for the 787 to battle againts Emirates A350's.

[CasearianDaoist]

bump

[John Valentine]

The A350-800, with more seats than the 787-8, will be able to fly about 300 miles farther than the Boeing plane with about 4 percent lower fuel burn per seat and lower maintenance cost per seat, Leahy said. The cash operating costs to the airline per seat will be less than for the 787-8, as will the plane's empty weight per seat, he said.

These predictions are nothing more than sales hype and there is a good chance that Airbus won't make good.

Also, if the United States makes good on derailing the European governemtal subsidies for the development costs of tha A350, then perhaps the buy in price won't be qwuite as attractive as advertised, either.

[anonymoussierra]

thank you

[anonymoussierra]

"Boeing plans three versions of the 787 -- a short-range 787-7, the long-range 787-8 and 787-9, which will be bigger.

Boeing does not want to make the 787-9 too big or it would be competing against its 300-seat 777-200." I do not know"777-200"thank you

[PAR35]

Leahy said at least four airlines will announce orders

I'll bet that will include the 'orders' that are part of Airbus's 'investment' in AmericaWest/USAir.

[RayChuang88]

Here's the bad news for Airbus though: additional changes to the design of the A350 could substantially drive up the cost of development. Not only will the current A350 design sport a new wing design, GENx or Trent 1000 derivative engines, and a new tail design, but also will switch to ultra-light aluminum-lithium alloys for the fuselage structure and will switch to semi-bleedless (e.g., less bleed air from the engines to drive power accessories in the plane) operation, too. We may be seeing a project that could end up costing Airbus €6 billion (US$7.33 billion at current exchange ranges), something that EADS shareholders could revolt over especially given the substantial overrun cost of the A380 program.

[Brofholdonow]

As with all international duty Airbus equipment: warmed-over 300 series, rushed out, expanded and stretched, then delayed and over-budgeted. The only reason most of them sell is because they are sold at loss prices subsidized by European socialist make work governments.