Posted on 06/03/2005 4:07:53 PM PDT by Golden Eagle
Yes, the entire "think" product line, including thinkpad, thinkcentre, etc was part of the deal.
Any idea what it is that Dell wants to sell to the Chi-Coms?
Also, buying from Dell is also buying from the Commies in many cases. Lots of Dell's systems are made by CMs such as Foxconn (Hon Hai), Flextronics and MiTAC, in factories located in the PRC. The Commies pocket a percentage, and the workers there pocket the intellectual property. Stuff being made today by US companies there is inevitably reverse engineered. It's pretty hard to find consumer PCs not made in the PRC these days. Pretty much the same deal for any PCs or servers under about 3 thou in price. They're mostly made in the PRC.
But Dell is certainly not *owned* by "the commies", an important distinction I hope you would agree.
I agree. They've simply outsourced lots of stuff to the Commies.
According to the IBM PC division sale, is Lenovo entitled to continue selling their wares under the IBM name?
Are you absolutely sure of that GE, cause from what I read, the Thinkpad could not be part of the deal because of the hardware encryption they use. If this is the case, that is a very bad deal.
I also read somewhere that IBM doesn't want to give up the Thinkpad, and laptop division because it is the highest returning division in the company.
Hey GE, sorry for that, I was definitely misinformed about the Thinkpad. You're absolutely right. Also your opinion about Lenovo being able to brand them as IBM is very questionable.
I thought we had very tight restrictions on encryption technology leaving this country. Is this a sign that we are loosening our restrictions?
This deal gets worse everytime I read about it. IBM and the US department of commerce should be roundly chastised for this deal.
IBM was actually making a recent profit off their PC sales, and sold the $10+ billion/year business for just over a $1 Billion. From Business Week:
I do think that it would have been better if a US company would have offered to buy them, but none stepped up.
Actually, some did. But that was apparently not what IBM was looking for.
IBM sought a China partnership, not just a sale
This has all been swept under the rug though, that last article isn't even available from the original publisher anymore, and this Dell guy will be shutup soon as well. Well at least some of us still have a voice, if I ever suddenly disapear, come looking.
Isn't that incredible? If not that it was allowed by the US, that it was agreed to by IBM.
I thought we had very tight restrictions on encryption technology leaving this country. Is this a sign that we are loosening our restrictions?
We used to have tight restrictions, but Bill Clinton basically did away with them all with new legislation he alone signed his last week in office. You may recall, the media covered Marc Rich instead.
If they come for you GE, you can hide out at my place. I'll protect ya'.
The man truly was a traitor to his country.
all US manufacturing will eventually simply be a "brand" name that people recognize, with foreign manufactured goods. Black & Decker for example. watch the Chicoms buy Saturn from GM.
Thanks, I'm only half joking, but these are gravely serious issues to some in this world. And yes, it is absolutely appalling.
I saw a Curtis Mathis TV for sale at KMart the other day, remember the TV that had the lifetime warranty? This thing looked like it might make it about 18 months at my house.
its the same for all this chinese made crap. people swoon about how cheap it is - we buy a new toaster and coffee maker every 18 months. how "cheap" is it really when you have to repurchase it again and again?
...er, that would be Round Rock.
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