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To: iconoclast; FormerLib
Yeah, and I'm sure denials of animalism and stickin pins in little dollies would also be vehemently denied.

Ok, I'll bite.

First of all on 'stickin; pins in little dollies.' Would that be vehemently denied? Nope! Why? No need to! Why? Because it doesn't even take place in Africa! What?!?! Well, it is a tradition that ALLEGEDLY (more on that later) stems from the Voudoun religious branches ....namely what is known in the West as Voodoo (voudoun is the non-hollywood term, specifically the hougoun and bokor split), Candomble and Santeria. These are in Haiti, Brazil and Cuba respectively. While they are based on certain old-time African practices they are far from African (infact they have more to do with renegade Catholicism than anything else, where Catholic saints are given different names and worshiped as gods demons and protectors). Going back to the 'dollies with pins' ....that stemmed from 1950s HollyWeird, along the same time that peopel started talk on 'zombies' (i think a decade and a half before George Romero ever got behind a camera) ...and anyways HollyWeird Zombies are totally different from Voudoun Zombies (Voudoun zombies are in a nutshell people poisoned with puffer fish venom, making them appear dead, and when they come to and shuffle due to mental injury people think they are zombies). Anyways, Real Voudoun doesn't have 'dollies' with pins ....you can only find those in tourist shops in New Orleans, and they are probably made in China for a red cent and then sold for 15 bucks to some pimply-faced highschool kid with some angst towards the pretty girl in the rich clique.

Anyways, one wouldn't have to deny something that takes place half a world away ....particularly when it doesn't even exist there in the first place.

Now, to what you call 'Animalism.' For one I think you meant Animism ....with may seem like semantics but there is a major difference between the two words. Would they deny Animism? Nope. Why? Because there is no reason to. How come? Because those that still practice it have no reason to deny it.

And maybe you do not know what Animism is (you spelt it wrong, hence there is a chance you may actually think it has something to do with animals). Here is the best description I could find for you: Animism is the belief that personalized supernatural beings (or souls) inhabit all objects and govern their existence. Animism (from animus, or anima, mind or soul), originally means the doctrine of spiritual beings, including human souls. It is often extended to include the belief that personalized, supernatural beings (or souls) endowed with reason, intelligence and volition inhabit ordinary objects as well as animate beings, and govern their existence (pantheism or animatism). This can be stated simply as "everything is alive" 'everything is conscious" or "everything has a soul".

As a matter of fact faiths like Daoism and Buddhism have strong animism traits, as do certain threads of Philosophy (the most prominent being the ones from Plato, Schelling and Aristotle), and of course several African traditional belief systems. Anyways, the few people I've met who actually do follow animism would never deny it. I actually wish more of us Christians had the same fervor (to be honest).

By the way, were you trying to make a quip?

186 posted on 06/03/2005 4:25:28 PM PDT by spetznaz (Nuclear tipped ICBMs: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol.)
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To: spetznaz
A long (and rather interesting) rant but it does absolutely nothing to void my point.

Unverifiable denials are worthless evidence.

196 posted on 06/04/2005 6:16:12 AM PDT by iconoclast (Conservative, not partisan.)
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