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Legislators Pass Bills Requiring Ammo ID - Numbers would be put on new bullets and cartridges.
LA Times ^ | June 3, 2005 | Jordan Rau and Nancy Vogel

Posted on 06/03/2005 2:18:30 AM PDT by calcowgirl

SACRAMENTO — California lawmakers Thursday voted to require weapons manufacturers to ensure that all bullets and cartridges are branded with distinctive serial numbers.

Contained in two measures that are intended to help law enforcement solve cases, the proposal would be unique among states if approved by the Legislature and signed by Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger.

The gun industry said the proposals were impractical and would force weapons makers to either write off the huge California market or adopt practices that would greatly increase the cost of their wares.

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On the weapons measures, though a number of law enforcement officials backed them, there was strong opposition from Republican lawmakers, manufacturers and gun groups. Opponents said both measures would be useless in tracking most crimes back to their sources, because few criminals obtain their weapons through legal channels.

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One of the proposals, from state Atty. Gen. Bill Lockyer and approved in the Senate, 21-14, would require manufacturers, starting in 2007, to stamp bullets sold in California with a identification number that police could trace to the store where the ammunition was sold.

"We can put individualized serial numbers on cartons of yogurt, on almost everything in society, with very little additional cost," said Sen. Joe Dunn (D-Santa Ana), who sponsored the measure, SB 357.

The second measure, which was approved by the Assembly, 41-37, would mandate that all new semiautomatic handguns, starting in 2007, include technology that would stamp a distinguishing serial number onto a cartridge when it is fired. Assemblyman Paul Koretz (D-West Hollywood), the sponsor of AB 352, said the markings "won't always lead to the criminal, but it will create leads" for police.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: ab352; ammunition; bang; banglist; california; callegislation; cary; fascistkalifornia; joedunn; number9number10; paulkoretz; sb357
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To: calcowgirl
Gee...lets think logically...would any law abiding firearms owner rob a store and shoot the ownner with rounds labeled that would identify him/her....?

Well duh!

Seems to me that this will simply increase criminal activity in stolen ammo.....that points to the innocent, but those with deep pockets....

41 posted on 06/03/2005 6:01:03 AM PDT by cbkaty (I may not always post...but I am always here......)
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To: calcowgirl

Hacksaw CA off and send it adrift into the Pacific!


42 posted on 06/03/2005 6:06:25 AM PDT by mr_hammer (I call them as I see them!)
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To: MarkL

Didn't something similar to this at Lexington and Concord cause a lot of trouble?


43 posted on 06/03/2005 6:08:56 AM PDT by ZULU (Fear the government which fears your guns. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: Morgan's Raider
>Cartons of yogurt, with very few exceptions, offer a whole >lot more space on which to imprint a 9 or 10 digit serial >

We could get around this by making the minimum caliber firearms .50 .... errr ..oops
44 posted on 06/03/2005 6:23:29 AM PDT by PzGr43
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To: calcowgirl
If I fire a marked bullet and do not collect by casing, and someone of dubious character picks up and reloads that round. He/She then uses it to kill a cop or something and allows the casing to fall to the ground as evidence. They then trace the round to me and convict me. This is extremely scary.
45 posted on 06/03/2005 6:25:56 AM PDT by KansasConservative1
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To: calcowgirl

and they will have a lot of blind sheeple to help advance there cause.


46 posted on 06/03/2005 6:48:00 AM PDT by realman
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To: KansasConservative1
Excellent point....just up the dollars for B&E to steal marked ammo so gang members can pin murders on law abiding citizens.

Hmmmm........real genius stuff at work here in the CA legislature....

47 posted on 06/03/2005 7:02:17 AM PDT by RSmithOpt (Liberalism: Highway to Hell)
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To: calcowgirl
If they actually pass this, every single bullet manufacturer should cease all sales in california, including to police.
48 posted on 06/03/2005 7:17:29 AM PDT by zeugma (Come to the Dark Side...... We have cookies!)
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To: zeugma

"every single bullet manufacturer should cease all sales in california, including to police."

I expect that. Barrett won't sell or repair PRK police rifles. It just won't be cost effective to sell into PRK.


49 posted on 06/03/2005 7:48:33 AM PDT by shellshocked (They're undocumented Border Patrol agents, not vigilantes.)
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To: zeugma

If that is true then the Nation Guard would be in violation.

This is sickening! At what point are people going to stand up and say enough is enough!


50 posted on 06/03/2005 10:46:57 AM PDT by beltfed308 (Cloth or link. Happiness is a perfect trunion.)
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To: calcowgirl
If I was an arms company, and if this is signed, I would refuse to sell or ship to California - and that includes their police departments.
51 posted on 06/05/2005 5:42:49 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan (June 14 - Defeat DeWine - Vote Tom Brinkman for Congress (OH-2) - http://www.gobrinkman.com)
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