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Wal-Mart Fights Bill Listing Workers on Public Health Care
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| 6-2-05
| Associated Press
Posted on 06/02/2005 10:06:30 PM PDT by Eternal Sea
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To: Eternal Sea
Labor groups, such as the United Food and Commercial Workers union, worry that other retailers will reduce their health care benefits in order to remain competitive with Wal-Mart. They've used the lists as evidence that Wal-Mart is not providing affordable health care insurance to its employees. Uh, I would point out there is no law forcing Wal*Mart, or any other company for that matter, to provide health insurance for it's employees. The health insurance benefit is a perk, pure and simple.
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posted on
06/02/2005 10:12:20 PM PDT
by
upchuck
(If our nation be destroyed, it would be from the judiciary." ~ Thomas Jefferson)
To: Eternal Sea
Winn-Dickme is ready to drop its pensions and healthcare for all its retirees. Just like the airlines did. Where's the outrage about that? Winn-Dickme is going under and that's all there is to it.
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posted on
06/02/2005 10:12:27 PM PDT
by
Ron in Acreage
(It's the borders stupid!)
To: Eternal Sea
Proponents of the bill, whose chief author is Sen. Becky Lourey, DFL-Kerrick, say the public has a right to know which employers are draining the state's public health care system.But the public doesn't have a right to know who is accepting the State's largesse? Employers are not 'draining' anything from the State's welfare programs. I'd even hazard a guess they pay taxes to make the largesse possible. Let's see the State publish the name and address of anyone accepting government checks.
To: Eternal Sea
Let Wal-Mart close its stores and THEN count the number of former Wal-Mart employees on welfare.
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posted on
06/02/2005 10:14:29 PM PDT
by
Graybeard58
(Remember and pray for Spec.4 Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
To: Ron in Acreage
Winn-Dickme is ready to drop its pensions and healthcare for all its retirees. Just like the airlines did. Where's the outrage about that? Winn-Dickme is going under and that's all there is to it.Anyone who thinks a company will exist into perpetuity and thereby provide benefits to retirees deserves the deal they brokered. I just think it's sad the taxpayer has to pick up the tab for these poor decisions.
To: upchuck
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posted on
06/02/2005 10:19:27 PM PDT
by
Ron in Acreage
(It's the borders stupid!)
To: upchuck
You are right.
Health insurance is something that is a perk. We can buy insurance if we want, or apparently sign up for governmental insurance coverage. It is there to be taken advantage of.
I can't fault people for taking what is made available for such a purpose.
To: Ron in Acreage
Yep. And it's the same thing that's got GM in trouble. In GM's case it serves them right for letting the union walk all over them for so many years.
I'd bet even money that, ultimately, we, the taxpayers, are gonna have to partially bail out these problems.
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posted on
06/02/2005 10:27:47 PM PDT
by
upchuck
(If our nation be destroyed, it would be from the judiciary." ~ Thomas Jefferson)
To: upchuck
The Unionized grocery stores who are trying to compete with WalMart are going out of business because of "healthcare" expenses and other perks the Unions are trying to force employers to pay.
If Unions want to put good companies out of business they should keep up the campaign. WalMart should close their doors and let these people find work elsewhere. Let's see how fast they are invited back for those "low wages" they are paying.
The same people demanding these perks for these workers are the same people who probably make millions from the Unions.
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posted on
06/02/2005 10:32:59 PM PDT
by
kcvl
To: ConservativeMind
Health insurance was a perk in the 1970s. Today it's the difference between getting a serious illness treated and the risk of losing everything.
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posted on
06/02/2005 10:34:56 PM PDT
by
durasell
(Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
To: durasell
"Health insurance was a perk in the 1970s. Today it's the difference between getting a serious illness treated and the risk of losing everything. " It's called insurance for the very reason it is a financial burden when needed. You could get insurance then and today. It is not the employers responsibility.
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posted on
06/02/2005 10:43:10 PM PDT
by
endthematrix
(Thank you US armed forces, for everything you give and have given!)
To: Graybeard58
Having enjoyed the pleasure and endured the agony of litigating against WalMart for for the mistreatment and oppressive treatment of it employees, I am at liberty to state without equivocation that WalMart is the most dangerous threat to the American economy extant today. It is governed by a gang of self-indugent thieves who have made tons of profit by cheating their employees and lying to the American public. Their false "made in America" program was a gigantic lie and they tried to hide their explotation of asian slave laborers transported to the Marshall Islands and kept in virtual prisons in indentured servitude. And that has been one of their more minor unlawful experiences. Spending money at Walmart is contributing to the demise of middle America's economic strength.
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posted on
06/02/2005 10:44:18 PM PDT
by
middie
To: durasell
That doesn't stop it from being an optional benefit (perk).
You can work extra to buy it if necessary or use the government's insurance as a fall-back.
A car is optional as well, but we don't see it that way. Still, we don't require businesses provide transportation for everyone for "free".
Perhaps if we could see that the vast majority of our health was in our own hands, people such as yourself could feel more comfortable with the insurance situation.
Catastrophic insurance is not that expensive and would prevent "losing everything".
Insurance, I maintain, is purely a perk.
To: endthematrix
....is it the state's responsibility?
I suspect you'd say no. So, given that, you would opt for a large percentage of the population to have no health insurance. This is a hugely dangerous situation, not only for those who would lose everything because of a major illness, but for the rest of us. There's a lot of nasty bugs flying around out there and I for one would like the guy preparing my salad at the local eatery to see a doctor regularly. Not to mention, I wouldn't like to see a replay of 1918.
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posted on
06/02/2005 10:47:28 PM PDT
by
durasell
(Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
To: kcvl
Wal*Mart just flat does not like unions. I'm sure you remember what happened in the Wal*Mart store in Canada where the union had finally managed to gain a foothold? Wal*Mart closed the store :)
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posted on
06/02/2005 10:51:33 PM PDT
by
upchuck
(If our nation be destroyed, it would be from the judiciary." ~ Thomas Jefferson)
To: ConservativeMind
Insurance is going to be THE issue in the next decade. Come October, when the new bankruptcy laws go into effect a lot of people are going to start losing their homes since a disproportionate amount of personal bankruptcies are health related. A lot of folks are going to be screaming like stuck pigs.
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posted on
06/02/2005 10:54:34 PM PDT
by
durasell
(Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
To: durasell
Perhaps, but then they should have prepared by staying more healthy all along.
We need to be responsible for ourselves. Catastrophic insurance will stop the problems you describe if only people were willing to give up their HBO.
To: durasell
The state has unfortunately designated themselves guarantors of health insurance. They do provide it. The responsibility of insurance is yours. You buy it...from a company. It IS affordable just as any commodity that a family needs. Some family think cable TV or fashionable shoes are necessities, and after those costs they think spending on insurance (and not getting anything tangible) is unaffordable.
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posted on
06/02/2005 10:57:11 PM PDT
by
endthematrix
(Thank you US armed forces, for everything you give and have given!)
To: ConservativeMind
LOL...glad we are on the same page. (#19)
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posted on
06/02/2005 10:58:35 PM PDT
by
endthematrix
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