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Threat Matrix: Daily Terror Threat - Thread Twenty-Seven

Posted on 06/02/2005 9:27:09 PM PDT by nwctwx

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To: MamaDearest

Thanks MamaD. I remember that from the link you posted. I found another article about it on a different site but it had the same info.


521 posted on 06/07/2005 7:05:54 PM PDT by Oorang ( A great deal of talent is lost to the world for want of a little courage. -Goethe)
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To: nw_arizona_granny

In apprehending Al Muhajir as he sought entry into the United States, we have disrupted an unfolding
terrorist plot to attack the United States by exploding a radioactive "dirty bomb."

Where's the bomb?


522 posted on 06/07/2005 7:06:58 PM PDT by DAVEY CROCKETT (Character exalts Liberty and Freedom, Righteous exalts a Nation.)
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To: MamaDearest

Oh my *&#$!! That article about the chainsaw guy is unbelievable. They let him waltz in!?! And his photo is one for the books.


523 posted on 06/07/2005 7:09:28 PM PDT by Oorang ( A great deal of talent is lost to the world for want of a little courage. -Goethe)
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To: grizzfan; MamaDearest; DAVEY CROCKETT; All
Is Turkey Going Islamist?
By Daniel Pipes
FrontPageMagazine.com | June 7, 2005

Is Turkey going Islamist? Is it on the road to implementing Islamic law, known as the Shari’a?

I replied in the affirmative to these questions in a symposium at FrontPageMag.com a month ago. Turkey’s Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoðan, I wrote, plans to undo the secular Atatürk revolution of 1923-34 and replace it with the Shari’a. I predicted the leadership of his Justice and Development Party (known by its Turkish initials, AKP) will use the democratic process only so long as this serves its purpose. It will circumscribe, or even terminate, political participation when the right moment comes. The end result, I predicted, could be an “Islamic Republic of Turkey.”

In the jargon of Turkey-watchers, I made the hidden-agenda argument about Erdoðan and the AKP. The Turkish press gave my comments wide publicity, more often than not disagreeing.

Fortuitously, the Nixon Center and German Marshall Fund then invited me to join a Euro-American group for intensive discussions last week in Istanbul and Ankara with Turkish politicians, journalists, intellectuals, and business leaders. Making the trip more piquant, many of our interlocutors knew my views and quizzed me on them, then gave me quite an earful.

Their arguments left me, I must admit, less certain of Erdoðan’s intentions than when I arrived.

The case for a hidden agenda starts with the fact that Erdoðan and many of his colleagues began their careers in an Islamist party explicitly seeking to undo the secular order of Turkey. They confronted what is colorfully known as the “deep state” (the military, judiciary, and bureaucracy – collectively, the keepers of Atatürk’s secular legacy) and emerged the worse for it, sometimes ejected from high office or thrown into jail.

The smarter Islamists learned from this experience and made changes. Those changes, it bears emphasis, were tactical in nature (i.e., pursuing their goals more subtly and slowly), rather than strategic (accepting the secular order). This fits a known pattern of Islamist dissimulation (for another example, recall Al-Qaeda’s instructions to its adepts).

Actions that confirm one’s doubts about the AKP having changed goals since it came to power in late 2002 include attempts to criminalize adultery, to transform religious instruction at public schools into propaganda for Islam, and to loosen the penalties against free-lance Koranic instruction. Condemning Christianity as a polytheistic religion and purging members of the Alevi minority from the government’s Religious Directorate also raise red flags.

The case against the hidden-agenda argument notes that politicians do learn from their mistakes, they mature, and they change goals. If other politicians can evolve (think of Germany’s Foreign Minister Joschka Fischer or Israel’s Prime Minister Ariel Sharon), why not the AKP leadership? No longer hotheads seeking to overturn the system, they now work within it. Limited efforts to the contrary, the AKP has not basically challenged the secular order.

Interpreting the AKP can take on the quality of a sophisticated intellectual puzzle, with the same evidence lending itself to contrary explanations. Take the AKP’s strenuous efforts to win acceptance as a full member of the European Union by bringing Turkish practices into conformity with EU standards. Does this fit the Islamist agenda by expanding the rights of religious practice and reducing the military’s role in politics? Or does it fit the secular agenda by making Turkey more fully a part of Europe? Both can plausibly be argued.

Some Turks don’t bother to speculate about the AKP’s intentions, holding that the party cannot overturn secularism in Turkey because of several factors: secularism’s entrenchment and wide popularity; the deep state’s ultimate power to thwart the Islamist agenda of elected governments; and the AKP’s specific limitations. On this last point, the party combines several disputing factions and it has very fast grown large; both of these suggest that it cannot serve as a disciplined instrument for the ambitious project of overturning the existing order.

In all, I now find the evidence insufficient to judge which way the AKP leadership ultimately wants to go – whether to stick permanently within the secular framework bequeathed by Atatürk or to overthrow it. Things might become clearer in 2007, assuming Erdoðan then becomes president of the republic, with all the powers that office confers.

For the moment, Turkey’s secular order remains robust; I cannot help, however, but expect a major struggle over its future course.

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=18325

524 posted on 06/07/2005 7:16:45 PM PDT by Oorang ( A great deal of talent is lost to the world for want of a little courage. -Goethe)
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To: MamaDearest

I agree and if convicted, will probably be deported after fines, and any prison/jail time.


525 posted on 06/07/2005 7:18:47 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: Oorang
12 arrested in Scotland after nuclear base break-in

Spanish judge wants to question US troops

Massachusetts couple fight back against Red Sea pirates

Lawyers say 3 terror suspects not tied to Palestinian terror group

Britain lowers terrorist threat

526 posted on 06/07/2005 7:18:55 PM PDT by MamaDearest
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The Iran-North Korea Connection
527 posted on 06/07/2005 7:19:02 PM PDT by Oorang ( A great deal of talent is lost to the world for want of a little courage. -Goethe)
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To: MamaDearest
I promise you wont be sorry. I read it about 7 years ago and it is still on my mind. It is not like anything you have read before.

I always donate all my books to the local library (I want to make sure they have a conservative slant LOL). this one I kept.
528 posted on 06/07/2005 7:20:26 PM PDT by DAVEY CROCKETT (Character exalts Liberty and Freedom, Righteous exalts a Nation.)
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To: DAVEY CROCKETT
Where's the bomb?

Wouldn't it be interesting to know where it was planned to be exploded. We'll never be told. I believe if more details were made public, more people would take the terrorism threat seriously (especially in the tentative targeted area).

529 posted on 06/07/2005 7:26:50 PM PDT by MamaDearest
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To: Oorang

It was pretty absurd he was allowed entrance into the country at all. And yes, his photo did belong in some kind of book...mugshot would be one type.


530 posted on 06/07/2005 7:28:57 PM PDT by MamaDearest
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To: MamaDearest

I don't remember who but someone on Coast to Coast a while ago said that they had found a nuke in Boston.

He was there and saw the whole thing but it is not being released to the American people. I think it was the same one who said we had OBL bagged and tagged. For what thats worth.


531 posted on 06/07/2005 7:32:40 PM PDT by DAVEY CROCKETT (Character exalts Liberty and Freedom, Righteous exalts a Nation.)
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Influx of Cambodian Muslims into Thailand
By Stephen Ulph

Thai authorities have become suspicious of an unusually large swell of Cambodian Muslims entering the country and heading for its southern provinces. According to the Thai News Agency, more than a hundred Cambodian Muslims a day have recently crossed the border into the country, a figure considered to be ten times greater than usual.

According to the Thai News Agency, suspicions voiced by the deputy immigration chief at the Aranyaprathet crossing, centered on the number of valid passports carried by economically poor migrants, the price of which "would normally be beyond their means". The migrants appeared to be accompanied by a cleric whom they said would "pay for all their expenses" to proceed onwards to Narathiwat province [http://etna.mcot.net]. Narathiwat is one of the three southern Thai provinces which, since spring 2004, have witnessed an upsurge of Islamist-inspired violence.

Muslims make up less than one percent of the predominantly Buddhist population of Cambodia, a fact which makes the recent concentration of Muslims in the border village of Poi Pet (opposite Aranyaprathet) of some concern. The report by the Thai News Agency went on to quote the Aranyaprathet immigration chief's fears that the Cambodian Muslims crossing into Thailand "might have been lured by the southern insurgents to take part in their activities."

http://jamestown.org/terrorism/news/article.php?articleid=2369703

532 posted on 06/07/2005 7:36:18 PM PDT by Oorang ( A great deal of talent is lost to the world for want of a little courage. -Goethe)
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To: DAVEY CROCKETT

You're right. Supposedly they found a device in Boston. Wasn't it being kept in a self-store unit in Peabody, north of the airport?


533 posted on 06/07/2005 7:38:05 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: MamaDearest
RE: Massachusetts couple fight back against Red Sea pirates

What a wild story. When we still had our sailboat we tossed around the idea of sailing around the world. Guess it's a good thing we sold it :-)

534 posted on 06/07/2005 7:38:45 PM PDT by Oorang ( A great deal of talent is lost to the world for want of a little courage. -Goethe)
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Al-Qaeda and WMD: A Primer
535 posted on 06/07/2005 7:44:25 PM PDT by Oorang ( A great deal of talent is lost to the world for want of a little courage. -Goethe)
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To: Oorang; Cindy; All

These reports of targeting kids through the food supply are being talked about again on the local news. They seem to be most worried about milk. Will report more as I can.


536 posted on 06/07/2005 7:48:13 PM PDT by appalachian_dweller (Until the borders are closed there is NO security. Get Prepared. Stay Prepared.)
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To: appalachian_dweller

Thank you a_d.


537 posted on 06/07/2005 7:50:54 PM PDT by Oorang ( A great deal of talent is lost to the world for want of a little courage. -Goethe)
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To: appalachian_dweller

REPOST for you AD:
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1415532/posts?q=1&&page=453#453

Thanks to F15 Eagle for pointing me to this thread.
Note: I have very mixed reactions posting this article here.
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1417921/posts


Feds: Science paper a terrorist's road map
CNN.Com - U.S. ^ | Monday, June 6, 2005 Posted: 10:54 PM EDT (0254 GMT) | CNN

Posted on 06/06/2005 10:18:30 PM PDT by F15Eagle

"Health agency seeks to halt scholarly publication"

ARTICLE SNIPPET: "WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The federal government has asked the National Academy of Sciences not to publish a research paper that feds describe as a "road map for terrorists" on how to contaminate the nation's milk supply."


538 posted on 06/07/2005 8:13:07 PM PDT by Cindy
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WASHINGTON, June 7 (Online): United States has deported two Pakistan nationals with alleged links to terrorist organisations.

Khamal Muhammad and Hamid Sheikh were deported after it was found that both of them had links with terrorist groups, the US Immigration and Customs Enforcement Agency (ICE) said on Monday.

Muhammad, who entered the US on a visa petition filed by his mother and lived in San Francisco, is an admitted member of the banned Harakat ul-Mujahidin (HUM), a US-designated terrorist organisation in Pakistan, it said in a statement.

During an interview with ICE agents, Muhammad admitted he had attended a HUM training camp where he was trained in the use of pistols, rifles and grenades.

Sheikh, who was living in Philadelphia, said he entered the country illegally in April 1985, the agency said.

He is affiliated with a militant group in Pakistan outlawed by the government due to its involvement in massacres and targeted killings, it added.

http://www.thepakistaninewspaper.com/news_detail.php?id=2281

539 posted on 06/07/2005 8:16:45 PM PDT by Oorang ( A great deal of talent is lost to the world for want of a little courage. -Goethe)
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To: grizzfan

Re #501

Excellent post! And down right SCARY!


540 posted on 06/07/2005 8:16:58 PM PDT by appalachian_dweller (Until the borders are closed there is NO security. Get Prepared. Stay Prepared.)
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