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To: freepatriot32
this is small goverment republicans doing this.Just keep that in mind on election day and try not to throw your vote away again like all you people did last time that voted straight republican ticket

It's nonsense like this and the transnational open borders beliefs that keep me from taking the libertarians seriously (even though I defend them in most threads). Our society has reached the point where you essentially have to pull a Timothy Leary, drop out, and live in a bubble in order to raise children with a decent morals. And yet the sex, drugs and libertarianism crowd wants us to make it even more difficult to raise healthy children.

12 posted on 06/02/2005 1:24:55 PM PDT by Jibaholic (The facts of life are conservative - Margaret Thatcher)
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To: Jibaholic
Our society has reached the point where you essentially have to pull a Timothy Leary, drop out, and live in a bubble in order to raise children with a decent morals. And yet the sex, drugs and libertarianism crowd wants us to make it even more difficult to raise healthy children.

Ditto.....

There used to be a time when what is allowed on TV today would have been unacceptable in the past.

21 posted on 06/02/2005 1:29:30 PM PDT by yellowdoghunter (Liberals should be seen and not heard.)
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To: Jibaholic
Our society has reached the point where you essentially have to pull a Timothy Leary, drop out, and live in a bubble in order to raise children with a decent morals. And yet the sex, drugs and libertarianism crowd wants us to make it even more difficult to raise healthy children.

Someone is forcing you to subscribe to cable television?

42 posted on 06/02/2005 1:37:30 PM PDT by malakhi
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To: Jibaholic

"Our society has reached the point where you essentially have to pull a Timothy Leary, drop out, and live in a bubble in order to raise children with a decent morals. And yet the sex, drugs and libertarianism crowd wants us to make it even more difficult to raise healthy children."


No, we want you to raise your own kids, control your own TV, and keep the government out of it.


81 posted on 06/02/2005 2:32:08 PM PDT by SoVaDPJ
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To: Jibaholic
Our society has reached the point where you essentially have to pull a Timothy Leary, drop out, and live in a bubble in order to raise children with a decent morals.

Won't work.

Even the Amish know who Madonna is (and I'm not referring to the mother of Jesus).

98 posted on 06/02/2005 4:09:09 PM PDT by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: Jibaholic
It's nonsense like this and the transnational open borders beliefs that keep me from taking the libertarians seriously

Then you agree that cable, satellite and internet should be government controlled and porn, violence and religion banned? ...
107 posted on 06/02/2005 6:13:09 PM PDT by mugs99
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To: Jibaholic; brownsfan; Pietro; yellowdoghunter; Innisfree; redlocks322; familyop; Dr. Scarpetta; ...
I really cant believe what I am seeing from freepersthis week.Have all of you forgotten the clinton years here?it was only a few years ago.Lets face facts hillary clinton will be the president in 2008.There isn't a damn thing the republicans can do to stop it because standing up to her would take testicular fortitude and they have demonstrated over the last 11 years they dont have any at all so realizing that hillary will be president you all need to get as much power out of dc as possible now not later

the one thing you all have said is the government need to regulate cable to get obscene and pornographic programming off the air.What you all are missing is the fact that what you consider obscene and pornographic is not what hillary is going to consider obscene and pornographic and when she appoints janet reno to head the FCC you all are going to be in for a hell of a shock by what gets yanked off the air and what gets mandated to view.

I watched the outdoor channel and outdoor life network the other day and for 5 hours they showed nothing but guns, target shooting, and hunting.I saw a 12 year old boy shoot and kill an elk with a high powered rifle ther is no way janet reno will allow that on the air because her and hillary consider guns obscene and hunting pornographic (they sorta have a point when i saw the new smith and wesson 50 caliber handgun I got a little turned on I must admit :-D )so they will fine all the outdoor network 500 000 dollars for every bullet that is fired on one of thier shows until they all go bankrupt but nude lesbian jello wrestling will be on abc Friday nights at 8 pm so that hillary and janet(the only lesbian in history to never need a artificial strap on)can get turned on enough to have a snuggle all nightlong and rut like weasels until dawn.It would be thier Viagra So it would be mandatory viewing. Sunday mornings however when the local channels show the televised mass everyone knows that is just the opiate of the masses so thats gotta get a 500 000 dollar fine until lthey go off the air.Because speaking the lords name unless it is used as a profanity is just so obscene and lets not forget every preacher is a hate crime perp look at how many of them preach from the pulpit that homosexuality is a sin we cant have that going out over broadcast tv or cable or satellite it might make people uncomfortable.Better to just yank it off the air using the extortionist tactics that were pushed through a republican congress and signed into law by a republican president dont you think?

I would much prefer to see paris hilton eating a hamburger in a bathing suit then I would like seeing big bird and burt and ernie in a three way in order to show 5 year olds that every alternative lifestyle is as normal as heterosexuality and grover putting a condom on a banana to show kids how to do it on the playground without getting a std would be a bit much too.But when you put the dems in charge after al l the big government statist garbage is getting passed by republicans thats what you are going to end up with because they dont consider it obscene.They will think its there moral obligation to broadcast it and they will think its there moral obligation to take everyithing remotly conservative off the air for the children.

So why not instead of leading the cheers for this bill oppose it on conservative principles and then if you are one day subjected to seeing dana delanys butt flash on screen for 3 seconds on a rerun of nypd blue on tbs you can just whip out your ned flanders brand eye soap(the burning is love) and everything will be fine

171 posted on 06/04/2005 11:03:57 AM PDT by freepatriot32 (www.lp.org)
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To: Jibaholic
It's nonsense like this and the transnational open borders beliefs that keep me from taking the libertarians seriously (even though I defend them in most threads).

I very well understand your reservation about libertarians calling for voters not to throw their vote away by voting straight a republican ticket. I also understand that when combining this reservation with the libertarian stand on open borders, taking them seriously can be a difficult step. What I don't understand is your claim that you "defend them in most threads," and then turn around on this thread attacking what is generally held as pretty fundamental to all libertarians as well as most all Americans. That is respecting other's right to freedom of speech.

Our society has reached the point where you essentially have to pull a Timothy Leary, drop out, and live in a bubble in order to raise children with a decent morals. And yet the sex, drugs and libertarianism crowd wants us to make it even more difficult to raise healthy children.

Its always been difficult to raise children with decent morals. I don't understand however why you think one has to "drop out, and live in a bubble in order to raise children with a decent morals." I also do not understand why you toss the libertarians in with the sex and drug "crowd." Nor do I understand why you think any of them want you to make it more difficult to raise children.

Libertarians as I see it, want to make it easier for you to raise your children to be decent moral citizens. It seems to me that your unsupported claim otherwise, is not much different than your claim that you "defend" libertarians on "most threads." I am not just questioning your honesty here, but am also questioning your morality.

177 posted on 06/04/2005 11:34:12 PM PDT by jackbob
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