[pinz-n-needlez]

This is going to trigger alot of new reaearch and re-writing of old 'facts.'

My head is whirling from some of the info posted here today.

I've been talking to my kids lately about the 60's and 70's and the rise of the hippies, free love, antiwar stuff. What was the genesis?

This stuff seemed to blossom on the campuses, espcially the elite ones where rich kids were enrolled. I grew up in a poor, blue collar area. We were more interested in getting jobs than in wandering around in drug-induced free love stupors, but the underlying thinking still permeated our thinking by the 70's. There was a major paradigm shift among the youth, but where did it come from?

Reading some of this stuff today, I'm wondering if it wasn't part of the same stuff that was happening in Washington.

And I thought I was outgrowing conspiracy theories after my Clinton fatigue set in... ;-)

Pinz

[Howlin]

This is going to trigger alot of new reaearch and re-writing of old 'facts.'

There was some guy on today (can't remember which show) who is the head of the whistle blowers "union" or whatever the heck it is.

He was on with Joseph DiGenova, whom I love, and they were arguing about whether what Felt did was right or wrong; Joe said he should have gone up to Capitol Hill and talked to any of the congress critters he spoke to IN SECRET on a daily basis and told them what was going on OR he should have resigned and held a press conference IF he was doing it for ehtical reasons.

The whistle blower guy said that if he had exposed himself as Deep Throat, he would have been "subject" to the same kinds of scrutiny that the Swift Boats guys were and it would have become about HIM rather than about Nixon.

Imagine that! Actually having to publicly back up his accusations. The guy acted like that was a bad thing.

Go figure.

[ken5050]

Very true..I was at NYU..64-68..Greenwich Village..Washington Square Park...you could get high just walking across the park to class...passive smoke indeed!!

[Miss Marple]

You know, I have often thought about those years. The "generation gap" permeated even small towns in the Midwest. Why was it that the normal tensions between teens and their parents got magnified into a national movement? How complicit was the media in fanning the flames of inter-generational war?

The anti-war movement was partially funded by the communists. That is a fact that came out years after the war. The tv networks, we now find out, were run by a bunch of leftists (and who would have thought it of dear old Uncle Walter?).

The movies of the time (The Graduate, Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid, Bonnie and Clyde, MASH) celebrated anti-establishment actions and lawlessness. People like John Kerry got to testify in Congressional hearings.

I have come to believe it was a well-orchestrated plan to undermine our society. I suppose I will have to wrap myself in tinfoil, but I can't think of any other explanation, unless we all went crazy at once.