[j24]

"Well then give them back to Germans and take your "historic" lands from Ukrainians and Belorussians if you want, but stop blaming Russians. We are pretty satisfied that we had kicked you out from Moscow and had taken back Smolensk."

Such historical comparisons and blame-throwing really don't make much sense. People in many countries (not only Poles), even many Russians, blame your governement and army for what they are doing "now" in Chechnya. I don't like your views on history, but OK, you have the right to it.

You kicked Poles out of Moscow: very good. But then Warsaw was for 123 years a Russian city.

[jb6]

Lets remember the fact that from 1200s to the 1700s (about 500 years) it was Poland that was the aggressor annexing such Russ cities as Kiev, Smolensk, etc. Only the Kieven Russ cities as far east as Moscow were spared and that was because they were already conquered by the Mongol Golden Horde. From the 1400s to the late 1700s there was a drive amongst the eastern Rus to reunify the principalities and then reclaim the lands of the Kieven Russ, most of which at that point were in the hands of the Polish-Lithuanians, Mongols and the Swedes.

[RussianBoor]

Such historical comparisons and blame-throwing really don't make much sense.

It was not me who started it. Again my intention was to show how absurd it is.

Warsaw was for 123 years a Russian city

Warsaw has been always a Polish city because the majority of its population were Poles. Poland was a signory of Russian tzars but it does not make it part of Russia proper. It was a separate duchy with its own laws.