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Fair Tax, Bad Tax: The National Sales Tax's Insidious Influence
Tax Notes | 6/2/2005 | Joseph J. Thorndike

Posted on 06/02/2005 7:06:10 AM PDT by Your Nightmare

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1 posted on 06/02/2005 7:06:10 AM PDT by Your Nightmare
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To: ancient_geezer

FairTax PING

Need to refute this silly article.


2 posted on 06/02/2005 7:07:12 AM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: Your Nightmare

The problem is new taxes never replace old ones.


3 posted on 06/02/2005 7:07:18 AM PDT by Semper Paratus
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To: lewislynn
Have you ever seen a better analysis of the FairTax "movement" and it's followers?

[How many posts before we see the term "hit piece"?]
4 posted on 06/02/2005 7:08:40 AM PDT by Your Nightmare
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To: FairOpinion
Need to refute this silly article.
And validate it at the same time. How ironic.
5 posted on 06/02/2005 7:09:44 AM PDT by Your Nightmare
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To: Your Nightmare

Let me guess. The dork that wrote this works for H & R Block.


6 posted on 06/02/2005 7:12:06 AM PDT by hang 'em ("You can't buy the People unless yer for the People, ahuh huh ahuh" - William Jefferson Clinton)
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To: Your Nightmare
How many posts before we see the term "hit piece"?

No need... anyone can see the article is long on rhetoric and empty of fact. Anyone can have an opinion, but backing it up -- which the author doesn't even attempt to do -- is something different.

7 posted on 06/02/2005 7:12:59 AM PDT by kevkrom ("Those who stand for nothing fall for anything." -- Alexander Hamilton)
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To: Semper Paratus

And the consumption taxes envisioned by the Founders were few and far in between and thus avoidable (making them self regulating) because govt was funded by duties and tarriffs. The broadbased national sales tax proposed is unavoidable and therefore not self regulating. Think Luxury Boat Tax.


8 posted on 06/02/2005 7:13:47 AM PDT by agitator (...And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark)
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To: Your Nightmare

BTW, is there a link for this opinion piece, or did you copy this from a print source?


9 posted on 06/02/2005 7:14:18 AM PDT by kevkrom ("Those who stand for nothing fall for anything." -- Alexander Hamilton)
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1 posted on 06/02/2005 9:06:10 AM CDT by Your Nightmare

2 posted on 06/02/2005 9:07:12 AM CDT by FairOpinion
One minute and two seconds. You are either a very fast reader or you started calling it "silly" before you had read the entire article.
10 posted on 06/02/2005 7:14:18 AM PDT by Your Nightmare
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To: Your Nightmare

What do you mean validate it.

This guy says Fair Tax is bad because it's simple and people understand it. That's the stupidest statement I have ever heard on the subject.


11 posted on 06/02/2005 7:14:43 AM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: Your Nightmare

This is a hit piece. The author talked in circles, never explaining his reasoning for being against a national sales tax. I want facts, not spin when it comes to this issue. I haven't made up my mind about what type of reform we need, so it would be nice to read stuff that isn't full of spin and double talk.


12 posted on 06/02/2005 7:16:19 AM PDT by sean327 (All men are created equal, then some become Marines!)
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To: Your Nightmare

One minute is more than enough time to scan the article and considering the content is actually more time than it deserves.


13 posted on 06/02/2005 7:16:50 AM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: kevkrom
BTW, is there a link for this opinion piece, or did you copy this from a print source?
It's from a subscription site.

http://www.taxanalysts.com/www/website.nsf/Web/TaxNotesToday?OpenDocument
14 posted on 06/02/2005 7:17:01 AM PDT by Your Nightmare
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To: Your Nightmare
It's from a subscription site.

And you're reproducing it here on FR? Are you trying to get JimRob sued again?

15 posted on 06/02/2005 7:18:54 AM PDT by kevkrom ("Those who stand for nothing fall for anything." -- Alexander Hamilton)
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To: Your Nightmare
"Still, one aspect of the Fair Tax deserves special opprobrium: the damage it does to public debate. By focusing popular attention on a lame idea, it distracts attention from serious alternatives."

This is as far as I got reading this festering little piece of journalistic gangrene. Clownboy is obviously a big government marxist from way back.

16 posted on 06/02/2005 7:19:55 AM PDT by Desron13
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To: Your Nightmare
Look. We know that tax prep guys like you have a vested interest in keeping the current code in place. Your livelyhood depends on it.

But don't you really think you'd be happier doing somthing else? Like running a flower shop or something?

Give it up.

17 posted on 06/02/2005 7:20:06 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (Never underestimate the will of the downtrodden to lie flatter.)
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To: sean327
This is a hit piece. The author talked in circles, never explaining his reasoning for being against a national sales tax. I want facts, not spin when it comes to this issue. I haven't made up my mind about what type of reform we need, so it would be nice to read stuff that isn't full of spin and double talk.
It's an opinion piece. The facts on the FairTax have been well established. That's why continual support of it is misguided. The effort should be redirected toward more realistic proposals. The FairTax just isn't gonna happen.
18 posted on 06/02/2005 7:21:24 AM PDT by Your Nightmare
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To: FairOpinion
There's nothing to refute. I can't find an instance where the author states WHY a consumption tax is a bad idea.
19 posted on 06/02/2005 7:21:48 AM PDT by The_Victor (Doh!... stupid tagline)
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To: Your Nightmare
(emphasis mine)

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Naw, no vested interest in keeping taxes complex here...

20 posted on 06/02/2005 7:22:34 AM PDT by kevkrom ("Those who stand for nothing fall for anything." -- Alexander Hamilton)
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