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Ben Stein -Deep Throat and Genocide
The American Spectator ^ | 6/1/2005 12:22:42 AM | Ben Stein

Posted on 06/01/2005 4:57:54 PM PDT by Former Military Chick

Re: The "news" that former FBI agent Mark Felt broke the law, broke his code of ethics, broke his oath and was the main source for Carl Bernstein and Bob Woodward's articles that helped depose Richard Nixon, a few thoughts.

Can anyone even remember now what Nixon did that was so terrible? He ended the war in Vietnam, brought home the POW's, ended the war in the Mideast, opened relations with China, started the first nuclear weapons reduction treaty, saved Eretz Israel's life, started the Environmental Protection Administration. Does anyone remember what he did that was bad?

Oh, now I remember. He lied. He was a politician who lied. How remarkable. He lied to protect his subordinates who were covering up a ridiculous burglary that no one to this date has any clue about its purpose. He lied so he could stay in office and keep his agenda of peace going. That was his crime. He was a peacemaker and he wanted to make a world where there was a generation of peace. And he succeeded.

That is his legacy. He was a peacemaker. He was a lying, conniving, covering up peacemaker. He was not a lying, conniving drug addict like JFK, a lying, conniving war starter like LBJ, a lying, conniving seducer like Clinton -- a lying, conniving peacemaker. That is Nixon's kharma.

When his enemies brought him down, and they had been laying for him since he proved that Alger Hiss was a traitor, since Alger Hiss was their fair-haired boy, this is what they bought for themselves in the Kharma Supermarket that is life:

1.) The defeat of the South Vietnamese government with decades of death and hardship for the people of Vietnam.

2.) The assumption of power in Cambodia by the bloodiest government of all time, the Khmer Rouge, who killed a third of their own people, often by making children beat their own parents to death. No one doubts RN would never have let this happen.

So, this is the great boast of the enemies of Richard Nixon, including Mark Felt: they made the conditions necessary for the Cambodian genocide. If there is such a thing as kharma, if there is such a thing as justice in this life of the next, Mark Felt has bought himself the worst future of any man on this earth. And Bob Woodward is right behind him, with Ben Bradlee bringing up the rear. Out of their smug arrogance and contempt, they hatched the worst nightmare imaginable: genocide. I hope they are happy now -- because their future looks pretty bleak to me.

Ben Stein is a writer, actor, economist, and lawyer in Beverly Hills and Malibu, and author of "Ben Stein's Diary" each month in The American Spectator. Click here to subscribe.


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: benstein; bias; deepthroat; feltgate; markfelt; watergate
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To: PeteAtomic
The Khmer Rouge was not in power when Nixon bombed, and then invaded, Cambodia.

A fine example of an exquisite strawman. Where in the essay did Stein say this?

The Khmer Rouge did not gain power in Cambodia by its' own accord. The weakness of the Cambodian royalty to deal with this small extremist party was caused largely by American involvement in Cambodia.

Sidney Schoenberg, is that you? Still rattle with guilt about Dith Pran, I see.

101 posted on 06/02/2005 7:19:28 PM PDT by Petronski (A champion of dance, my moves will put you in a trance, and I never leave the disco alone.)
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To: California Patriot
I find it hard to take seriously a well-educated professional man of his age who still does TV game shows.

Breathlessly, I wait for you to do better.

102 posted on 06/02/2005 7:22:42 PM PDT by Petronski (A champion of dance, my moves will put you in a trance, and I never leave the disco alone.)
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To: Former Military Chick
Watergate was the liberal media at cynical, manipulative top form. Woodward and Bernstein hoodwinked an entire nation and destroyed a president whose biggest fault was that he lacked personal charm sufficient to blunt the all-out media attack. The burglary itself, which Nixon did not know about until after it happened, was bush league stuff, and Nixon responded foolishly after it was uncovered. But his worst errors of judgment weren't a patch on Clinton's least egregious crimes.

A consensus is building that the Internet is choking the life out of the print media, including the Washington Post. I hope Woodward and Bernstein live long enough to see the WP die its well-deserved hideous death.

103 posted on 06/02/2005 7:28:02 PM PDT by JCEccles (Andrea Dworkin--the Ward Churchill of gender politics.)
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To: stop_fascism

"Personally, I like the Mo Dean's a whore theory"

Any links re: these nocturnal activities? Preferably w/photos


104 posted on 06/02/2005 7:34:53 PM PDT by spanalot
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To: Logophile

"We were losing in Vietnam? How do you figure that? "

You got that right! JFK and LBJ pussyfooted with the war and wasted lives cowtowing to the liberal commie lovers.

Nixon hads the conviction to mine Haiphong harbor and choke off vital supplies that brought the enemy to their knees.

Too bad they signed a truce they had no intention of keeping - committing genocide of 2 million under the great Jimmy "I never lied to you " Carter.


105 posted on 06/02/2005 7:39:14 PM PDT by spanalot
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To: newfarm4000n; Odear
Odear, are those drugs legal? Where do you get 'em! I'd like some. TIA.

Seriously, searching the Internet and finding the history of China's help for Hanoi against the U.S. is easy. Searching my memory is easier. Here's one of hundreds of thousands of Internet hits:

wwics.si.edu/index.cfm?topic_id=1409&fuseaction=library.document&id=244

It's true that after 1975 the Chinese and the Communist North Vietnamese got into a shooting squabble, I believe. Both are worthless, criminal communists. That's what worthless, criminals do. Who cares?

As far as us being economic "friends" friends don't steal intellectual property and friends don't demand something of value as a condition of friendship. To wit, to do business in China Westerners have had to turn over their technology to Chi-com business "partners."

The Chi-coms are crooks and are of little use to us beyond exploiting their poor citizens for cheap labor. I believe that most Americans would prefer returning those jobs to the U.S., however

106 posted on 06/02/2005 7:52:18 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (Hillary is the she in shenanigans.)
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To: Petronski

"I wait for you to do better."

Utterly beside the point.

Breathlessly, I wait for a "better" response from you.


107 posted on 06/02/2005 8:07:16 PM PDT by California Patriot
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To: California Patriot
Utterly beside the point.

Not at all. You're going to say he's not credible? Fine. You become more credible than he is.




Right.

108 posted on 06/02/2005 8:08:40 PM PDT by Petronski (A champion of dance, my moves will put you in a trance, and I never leave the disco alone.)
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham
Excellent description of the way it was -- yet the enemy (domestic and foreign) lies from those war years continue.

I believe that Christopher Hitchens is fixated on getting Kissinger nailed for Cambodia. What did Hitchens expect our guys to do?

109 posted on 06/02/2005 8:11:02 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (Hillary is the she in shenanigans.)
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To: Former Military Chick

I love Ben. He is terrific. Great perspective on this whole thing.


110 posted on 06/02/2005 8:11:28 PM PDT by pollyannaish
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To: Petronski

An utterly illogical response.

Ted Kennedy is a "success," too. Should I respect him because of it? Am I unable to judge other people as fools just because 1) I'm not famous; 2) I'm not rich; 3) I don't have a cult following on FReep for some strange reason?

Do you worship money? Celebrity?


111 posted on 06/02/2005 8:14:04 PM PDT by California Patriot
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To: Former Military Chick

read later


112 posted on 06/02/2005 8:17:20 PM PDT by Sam Cree (Democrats are herd animals)
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To: California Patriot

Stein is a true Renaissance man: actor, game show host, scholar, author, etc.


You're jealous so you bust on him. Or do you just not understand humor?


I'm not rich or famous or a cult hero on FR either (WTF does that mean, anyway?), but I respect those more successful than me, for making the very most of their talents. If your bitterness clouds your appreciation of that, well, I can understand.


113 posted on 06/02/2005 8:21:31 PM PDT by Petronski (A champion of dance, my moves will put you in a trance, and I never leave the disco alone.)
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To: Petronski

Do you respect EVERYONE who is more successful than you?

You are entitled to think Stein is a "true Renaissance man." And I am entitled to think he is one of the most self-absorbed, trivial, overrated writers on the right. I'm not the least bit jealous of him. I just have a low opinion of him.

And I thought opinion was what FReep was all about.


114 posted on 06/02/2005 8:24:37 PM PDT by California Patriot
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To: California Patriot
You are entitled to think Stein is a "true Renaissance man." And I am entitled to think he is one of the most self-absorbed, trivial, overrated writers on the right.

Of course you are. Hold dear and post whatever opinion you wish. Don't cry censorship to me, I have no such powers.

But your jealousy is showing.

115 posted on 06/02/2005 8:26:23 PM PDT by Petronski (A champion of dance, my moves will put you in a trance, and I never leave the disco alone.)
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To: Petronski; Grampa Dave; BOBTHENAILER; Happy2BMe; MeekOneGOP; Tailgunner Joe; TapTheSource; ...
The Joint Chiefs went to LBJ in November of 1965 and requested permission to mine Haiphong harbor and bomb Hanoi.

LBJ not only refused them, but humiliated them, cursing them "obscenely" per the narrative written by the Marine aide to the chiefs.

"The Day It Became The Longest War" appeared in the May, 1996 Proceedings of the Naval Institute.

Six years later John Kerry would lie before the Senate and negotiate with the head of the Viet Cong team in Paris (Binh there, done that).

While Felt--boohooing over not getting Hoover's legacy after the May, 1972 death--broke the law, violated his oath, blabbing to WaPo Woodstein.

And Felt is a heeero?

I side with the eloquent Ben Stein.

For an excellent statement that Clinton is the Nixon the Left warned us about, see Ann Coulter, High Crimes and Misdemeanors: The Case Against Bill Clinton, Regnery, 1998.

And how about Admiral Moorer as the chairman of the Joint Chiefs conducting espionage on Henry Kissinger and Alexander Haig?

Precisely what was the reason for that? Treason?

116 posted on 06/02/2005 8:49:51 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: spanalot; California Patriot
You forget that he and Agnew started the war against the MSM! "Nattering nabobs of negativism"

Agnew had his faults, but he absolutely nailed the MSM when he called them "An effete corps of impudent snobs".

117 posted on 06/02/2005 8:51:10 PM PDT by tarheelswamprat (This tagline space for rent - cheap!)
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To: PhilDragoo
And how about Admiral Moorer as the chairman of the Joint Chiefs conducting espionage on Henry Kissinger and Alexander Haig?

Felt's a Hooverboy. See how he leaked on Agnew too?

Them Hooverboys did that kinda sh!t all the time.

118 posted on 06/02/2005 8:54:18 PM PDT by Petronski (A champion of dance, my moves will put you in a trance, and I never leave the disco alone.)
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To: Former Military Chick

BUMP!!!


119 posted on 06/02/2005 9:11:15 PM PDT by mercy (never again a patsy for Bill Gates - spyware and viri free for over a year now)
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To: Petronski
How about this broken chain of logic:

Hoover taped Martin Luther King, a heeero of the Left.

This should blacken not only Hoover for the Left, but the Hooverians, among whom Felt was a high-ranking Hooverian.

Yet, because Felt betrayed Nixon, there is no mention of the King thing.

King was killed in Memphis where the Police and Fire Commissioner was Frank Holloman a twenty-five-year FBI special agent, who for seven years (1952-1959) had headed Hoover's Washington office.

King could not have been killed had his security not been stripped by Holloman.

When Sullivan the number three man left the FBI May 1973 he advised Felt he'd left the agency's wiretap logs in Mardian's office. [William Sullivan, The Bureau: My Thirty Years in Hoover's FBI, Pinnacle, 1979, p 226.]

One can't help but wonder what W(easel) Mark Felt did with that information.

120 posted on 06/02/2005 9:23:58 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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