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Two held in assault-rifle attack on two officers (Fresno)
The Fresno Bee ^ | June 1, 2005 | Kerri Ginis

Posted on 06/01/2005 5:37:04 AM PDT by Enterprise

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To: Dinsdale

They stopped about 75 yards away. It is as much a case of afraid to get too close to armed officers as it is not being able to shoot. I'm sure that in a drive-by shooting against someone who is unarmed they would be much more accurate.


41 posted on 06/01/2005 9:39:10 AM PDT by Enterprise (Coming soon from Newsweek: "Fallujah - we had to destroy it in order to save it.")
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To: School of Rational Thought

CQB...it's not something "mom" stays to watch. :-) The "firing line" is dynamic.


42 posted on 06/01/2005 9:51:31 AM PDT by hiredhand (My kitty disappeared. NOT the rifle!)
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To: irishtenor

Now, everybody knows that if you take the guns away from the law abiding citizens then it will be impossible for criminals to get guns. Look how well it has worked in Great Britain!


43 posted on 06/01/2005 9:52:54 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Right, after all, it is the law abiding citizen that goes around and kills everybody. If I were a criminal, attempting to break into a house, I would feel much safer knowing that there was no one in the house to oppose me.


44 posted on 06/01/2005 9:55:30 AM PDT by irishtenor (Did I say something wrong? Or just intolerant?)
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To: Enterprise
They stopped about 75 yards away.

75 yards is a short/moderate shot for a rifle (w iron sights), long for the cops pistols.

Assuming they had the drop on the cops, they can't shoot. Just spray.

45 posted on 06/01/2005 9:56:55 AM PDT by Dinsdale
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To: Dinsdale

I'm assuming they had the drop on the officers. Bad shots, fortunately.


46 posted on 06/01/2005 10:04:59 AM PDT by Enterprise (Coming soon from Newsweek: "Fallujah - we had to destroy it in order to save it.")
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To: irishtenor
An "ASSAULT" rifle is any rifle used to assault people. I also have an assault baseball bat, an assault stick, an assault tire iron, and an assault wife. (None are registered)

Ban 'em all! Heck, let's ban hands while we're at it. Hands are extremely dangerous weapons that can be easily used to strangle or beat someone to death.

47 posted on 06/01/2005 10:05:49 AM PDT by Tabi Katz
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To: Tabi Katz

A flaming marshmellow could be concidered an assault weapon, too.


48 posted on 06/01/2005 10:07:34 AM PDT by irishtenor (Did I say something wrong? Or just intolerant?)
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To: aspiring.hillbilly
Assault weapons don't rear up and fire by themselves, so all the banning of them doesn't do a dam thing.

You're kidding! You mean thieves won't turn in their weapons once they are outlawed? Silly me, I thought the very people who want to do harm with their guns would be the first to line up and surrender them. Well, wonders never cease... /s

49 posted on 06/01/2005 10:11:29 AM PDT by Tabi Katz
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To: Enterprise

Your right. The name sounds more Hmong to me.

BTW, this sounds like an MS-13 tactic to me.. Where shooting cops is a rite of passage. Makes you wonder. . . I seriously doubt assimilation of Hmong gangs with MS-13, but SE Asian is a whole nuther ball of wax. (*al-Queda*)


50 posted on 06/01/2005 10:11:39 AM PDT by JesseJane (Flush the RINO RATPACK 7 - ~Selling America to Soros~, Right McCain? Right Lindsay?)
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To: JesseJane

I doubt that these are MS-13. They are probably just run-of-the-mill local dumbass gang members.


51 posted on 06/01/2005 10:13:30 AM PDT by Enterprise (Coming soon from Newsweek: "Fallujah - we had to destroy it in order to save it.")
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To: Bombardier

Yep, the libs and gutless RINOs just love these stories, because it gives them ammo (bad pun intended) in their war agains the law-abiding. I can just see the gleam in the eyes of the media elite when they report these attacks.


52 posted on 06/01/2005 10:13:44 AM PDT by Tabi Katz
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To: irishtenor

Ban 'em! Ban 'em ALL!


53 posted on 06/01/2005 10:14:38 AM PDT by Tabi Katz
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To: Enterprise

From the sound of the full article, sounds like a Hmong gang. Why weren't any of these people charged with attempted murder of police officers?


54 posted on 06/01/2005 10:19:26 AM PDT by JesseJane (Flush the RINO RATPACK 7 - ~Selling America to Soros~, Right McCain? Right Lindsay?)
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To: strange1
I too have an assualt wife. Large caliber, full-auto,

Ha ! I had one of those but in the carbine version...got converted into an ambush wife and totally wiped me out...

55 posted on 06/01/2005 10:20:57 AM PDT by in the Arena (Life may begin at 30, but it doesn't get real interesting until about 110.)
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To: JesseJane

Good question. I am making a WAG here, and that they only reason they weren't charged with attempted murder is because neither officer was actually shot. Now, that being said, I think they are all facing 25 years to life. The two counts of ADW on police officers are strike felonies, and the additional charge of an "assault weapon" could be the third strike. Time will tell though.


56 posted on 06/01/2005 10:52:23 AM PDT by Enterprise (Coming soon from Newsweek: "Fallujah - we had to destroy it in order to save it.")
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To: Bombardier

I have a WWII Japanese Arny rifle, I hope they don't come for that!


57 posted on 06/01/2005 10:55:27 AM PDT by Enterprise (Coming soon from Newsweek: "Fallujah - we had to destroy it in order to save it.")
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To: Enterprise

Sounds like a good guess. But if someone shoots at me and misses me, it's attempted first degree murder, is it not? The fact these offices were in marked vehicles, also makes clear that the shooters ID'd their intended targets, hence, premeditation. So... these charges, and low bail, are rather stunning at the moment. Wonder if someone in law enforcement could weigh in and explain..


58 posted on 06/01/2005 11:07:24 AM PDT by JesseJane (Flush the RINO RATPACK 7 - ~Selling America to Soros~, Right McCain? Right Lindsay?)
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To: JesseJane
"But if someone shoots at me and misses me, it's attempted first degree murder, is it not?"

I agree with you, but evidently in California, shooting at someone and missing is not attempted first degree murder.

59 posted on 06/01/2005 11:14:29 AM PDT by Enterprise (Coming soon from Newsweek: "Fallujah - we had to destroy it in order to save it.")
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To: Enterprise

LOL.. But if he hit me, I'd be 100% shot. Degree of near death TBD. LOLOL! I can hardly wait for the Federales to become California's law enforcers.


60 posted on 06/01/2005 11:21:17 AM PDT by JesseJane (Flush the RINO RATPACK 7 - ~Selling America to Soros~, Right McCain? Right Lindsay?)
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