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To: wagglebee

"I almost wonder if Reagan did suspect it, because Nixon's resignation paved the way for conservativism within the GOP."

Nixon WAS THE Conservative back then. He fought Kennedy's big union government, he fought the communists on moral grounds, and he would have won the war in Viet Nam had he not been cheated out of victory by vote fraud in 1960.

And that vote fraud was outrageous but he did not want to throw the country into turmoil (unlike Kerry).

Nixon is a fallen hero of the conservative movement.


7 posted on 05/31/2005 6:25:42 PM PDT by spanalot
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To: spanalot

And if he'd left it at the 1962 "You won't have Dick Nixon to kick around anymore" speech, he wouldn't have "fallen".


14 posted on 05/31/2005 6:34:05 PM PDT by WinOne4TheGipper (<a HREF="http://www.democraticunderground.com">Fruits and Nuts</a>)
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To: spanalot
Nixon WAS THE Conservative back then.

Then Conservatives were neo-leftists.

Pat Buchanan is clear as day that Nixon wasn't a conservative, and Michael Moore in one of his own books had to concede that Nixon was more liberal then each and every single president who came after him.

He's a fallen hero of the conservative movement the way Lucifer is a fallen angel of God.

16 posted on 05/31/2005 6:36:04 PM PDT by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: spanalot
Nixon was a "hawk" on Viet Nam, as JFK probably would have been. However, he was no fiscal conservative and gave us such bureaucratic nightmares like the EPA, he expanded Social Security by linking it to inflation, he froze wages, etc.

I suggest you pay close attention to the speeches that Ronald Reagan gave during the Nixon years, because he was clearly talking about taking the country in a conservative direction. Reagan would never have insulted Nixon, by name, but it was clear that he was unhappy with his policies.

Reagan Speeches

23 posted on 05/31/2005 6:46:06 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: spanalot
You're gonna get flamed, but I agree with you. Nixon was the young conservative who knocked the liberal darling Helen Gahagan Douglas out of the Senate, for which the left and MSM never forgave him. He was put on the ticket in 1952 to add appeal to conservatives to balance Ike's squishy moderate tendencies. Nixon went to the wall for Whittaker Chambers and after Alger Hiss, again for which the left and MSM never forgave him. At the time, Taft's main street Republicanism defined the conservative domestic policies. But no one knew that just over the horizon was Barry Goldwater, Ronald Reagan and the conservative revolution in domestic policy.

Nixon was a staunch conservative for his era, even if he did have some pretty stupid ideas about domestic policy, like wage-price controls, the EPA and affirmative action. His saving grace was he was a fierce anticommunist.

29 posted on 05/31/2005 6:54:51 PM PDT by colorado tanker (The People Have Spoken)
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To: spanalot

>>Nixon WAS THE Conservative back then.<<

He was sucking up to the tree huggers knowing what was down the lline for him. He put the United States under the crippling EPA, a disease that is worse than dementia! Nixon was scum from an infected pond!


43 posted on 05/31/2005 7:21:26 PM PDT by B4Ranch ( Report every illegal alien that you meet. Call 866-347-2423, it's a FREE CALL)
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To: spanalot

Nixon's the ONE :)


77 posted on 05/31/2005 11:54:33 PM PDT by des
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To: spanalot

In the public mind, Nixon was a conservative. In fact, it is difficult to reconcile that image with the man who started the E.P.A., Affirmative Action, and placed Wage/Price controls on the country. Vietnam and Anti-Communism? Well, finishing that hardly made him different from Kennedy, Johnson, and Humphrey. Everything he did--and I voted for him twice--increased the power of the state in the affairs of the people. Hardly conservative.


79 posted on 06/01/2005 3:56:29 AM PDT by jammer
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