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To: SJackson
The great challenge for moderate Muslims (and their non-Muslim allies) is to make that rejection (of violent jihad) come about, and with due haste

Indeed. Wishful thinking from Daniel Pipes...

5 posted on 05/31/2005 5:46:29 AM PDT by Gritty ("The truth is there is no real difference between Islam and Islamic fundamentalism" - Ibn Warraq)
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To: Gritty

I am not certain I agree.

In some respects, there are some basic elements of, for instance, national socialism, that are still present in all European countries - namely the socialism.

This ingredient removed from the nationalism is harmless to everyone except the people living in the society itself. Sort of like baking soda without vinegar.

It is distincly possible that if we fundamentally alter the Arabic culture - based on an economics of scarcity - we will be able to remove the violent element from Islam.

I certainly have seen and recognize the counter arguments of why Islam is a religion of hate and war. To a certain extent I agree. But, German culture was a culture of xenophobia and war, but it no longer is. Which proves that cultures can change.

Long before Islam the Arabs were cutting off hands, oppressing women and fighting barbaric wars in the name of their local god. It is this basic culture that must be weeded out.

Otherwise we might as well just kill the whole lot.


6 posted on 05/31/2005 6:10:35 AM PDT by Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit (“There is a law – a law of nature. Man is not the ruler.")
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