Blow to premier's vision of a very British Europe

Scotsman ^ | Tue 31 May 2005 | Fraser Nelson

[F14 Pilot]

Is EU about to collapse?

[F14 Pilot]

PING

[lodwick]

We can only hope that it will implode.

[TFine80]

How is it Blair's fault that France has a lot of morons?

Bizarre logic.

[Valin]

Ever since I saw this I've been asking...now what? What does this mean for the EU (bear in mind I'm not that bright) (feel free to disagree! :-)). Does France pull out of the EU? Does the EU go back to the drawing board?

[TFine80]

It means they stall 3 years or so.

And then no referendums the next time.

[F14 Pilot]

Most European people think they have lost their sovereignty by joining the EU

[paudio]

IIRC, by Oct 2006 they will have a meeting to evaluate whether 4/5 of members ratified the constitution. As of today, it means 20 countries ratified. If yes, it's more likely they will push for the constitution to take effect. If not, however, then the constitution will have a real problem.

With France and Netherlands (which more likely to) vote "no", other "no" may come from UK... Where else? How about Poland and Denmark, who I believe will have referendum soon? Or Ireland (who --with Denmark --also has history of rejecting EU treaty)?

[F14 Pilot]

Dutch people vote will be NO

British have already said NO by rejecting the Euro currency/zone

[Just A Nobody]

How is it Blair's fault that France has a lot of morons? Bizarre logic

By the same logic that an 88 year old in Holland has constipation is all PRESIDENT Bush's fault.

That is of course they still have 88 year olds in Holland.

[Archon of the East]

"neo-liberalism is the new communism". By this, Mr Chirac means the sort of market economics that has made America the world's strongest country, rescued Britain from 40 years of decline and brought prosperity from New Zealand to Singapore.

ultra-liberalism" and capitalism run wild.

"I think what we have here is a failure to communicate"

[Valin]

Shameless Plug
French 'No' Vote Could Stall European Integration
VOA ^ | 5/30/05 | Roger Wilkison
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1413393/posts
/Shameless Plug

[paudio]

Since "New Labour" opted to use the "third way", British has gone a bit to the right for some people. The 3rd way intellectual brain, Anthony Giddens, has basically said the same thing as Maggie Thatcher: TINA, There Is No other wAy(but capitalism). The basis is still a bit to the left, but they're 'business-friendly', so they don't accept class-warfare a la old Marxists. In the US, of course, even the "3rd way" is still seen as too lefty. The "New Democrats", the agent of this idea in the US, is attacked by both left and rigt.

So, considering that it's not 'socialist' enough, it's not a surprise that Frenchies hate the British's "3rd way".

[Mears]

Maybe the UK could become our 51st state.

Hell,it's not much further than Hawaii.

Now wouldn't that get the French knickers in a twist?

[MARETHLINE]

What!? Never! this is great news for the UK. At last the French government have failed to miserably and the UK is laughing big time at the French. We are Europe's strongest economy and they are jealous because of it! How now will we become a 51st state!?

[Mears]

No,I'm in Mass and have been both places-----Just "guesstimating"is all!

It takes me 6 hours to get to the UK and it's about 6 hours from the West Coast to Hawaii.

[Mears]

Believe me,I was only kidding.

I love the UK,I'm glad they kept their currency,and am thrilled about the "No" vote.

Go Brittania!!!!! (Remember "Cool Brittania"?)