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"PETER IS NOT TALKING ABOUT THE BLOOMING AGE OF THE EARTH!!!!! Good grief! He's talking about the return of Christ and the judgment that will come upon the earth. People are ignoring it. They are WILLFULLY IGNORANT of the signs we are seeing. They scoff at it. They scoff also at a literal interpretation of the Bible. Let me ask you, why do you believe that the earth is billions of years old?"

Peter clearly says that IIPeter 3:5

For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, (this is group number one who believes in a 6,000 year old earth) and the earth standing out of the water and in the water: (this is to those who think that this is about Noah's flood).

You are partially correct about this being about Christ's return, it is specifically telling us what we are not to be ignorant of and what people would be doing prior to the return of Christ. Part of not being caught unaware of the return of Christ is the requirement to NOT be ignorant of this earth being of OLD.

The word is fertile and if you don't get it then so be it, as Peter says he is stirring up the remembrance and that would come from He who removed the remembrance in the first place.

Here are a few items that are pre-man in the flesh.

Ezekiel 28 describing Satan

Jeremiah 4:22-31

Revelations 12:4

Jacob and Esau in the womb already having a history.

Job 38 through the rest of the book

Jude

This would be for starters.

When did Satan get the death sentence?????

When did Satan rebel???

When were the souls created, they sure were not described as being newly created in Genesis?

Who was with the Heavenly Father when He said "Let US make man in OUR image.

This will do for starters.

For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, (this is group number one who believes in a 6,000 year old earth) and the earth standing out of the water and in the water: (this is to those who think that this is about Noah's flood).

It says OF old, not that they were Old. The point here is that the heavens were by the Word of God, not that they are old. The willful ignorance, if you want to apply this to creationism, is that people are willfully ignorant in claiming anything other than that God spoke the worlds into being (as opposed to evolving by chance random processes). You are partially correct about this being about Christ's return, it is specifically telling us what we are not to be ignorant of and what people would be doing prior to the return of Christ. Part of not being caught unaware of the return of Christ is the requirement to NOT be ignorant of this earth being of OLD. (BALONEY!)

OF OLD
pavlai probably another form for (3825) (through the idea of retrocession)
Transliterated Word TDNT Entry
Palai 5:717,769
Phonetic Spelling Parts of Speech
pal'-ahee Adverb

Definition
of old, former
long ago

In other words, this they are willfully ignorant of "Long ago, God spoke the heavens into being."

No conflict with 6,000-10,000 years here. That is long ago.

Now, answer my question - why do believe it is billions of years?