[PatrickHenry]

I added the bolding, and the three links [in brackets.]

This is the 300th thread I've posted, not counting those pulled during the Luddite War. Everyone be nice.

[PatrickHenry]

EvolutionPing

A pro-evolution science list with over 280 names. See the list's description at my freeper homepage. Then FReepmail to be added or dropped.

[Leo Carpathian]

Can God and evolution coexist?

Sure! God created evolution. Case solved!

[Betaille]

Mainstream media will push any story that can possibly start with "Evangelicals divided". At least they aren't saying "Religious Right" anymore.

[Right Wing Professor]

This is the 300th thread I've posted, not counting those pulled during the Luddite War.

Sir, you're a gentleman and a scholar.

[aculeus]

This is the 300th thread I've posted, not counting those pulled during the Luddite War.

I missed that war but I can imagine it.

[VadeRetro]

This is the 300th thread I've posted, not counting those pulled during the Luddite War. Everyone be nice.

May you post 30 more!

[nmh]

Can God and evolution coexist?

No.

Either the Bible is true or it is not.

The Hebrew CLEARLY translated is seven LITERAL days.

So those that do not believe in Creation, I dare say, aren't Christians. Christians follow Christ and that means what is written in the Bible.


Matt.7:15

[14] Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

Col.2:6

[8] Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.

Yes, those "wise" evolutionists ... LOL!

Their initial premise is there is NO God.

1Cor.3:18

[18] Let no man deceive himself. If any man among you seemeth to be wise in this world, let him become a fool, that he may be wise.

[RaceBannon]

News Headline:

FLASH! THOSE WHO ACTUALLY BELIEVE THE BIBLE WHEN THEY READ IT BELIEVE IN CREATION!

Some Bible readers admit that the Bible says "CREATION" but just don't believe it!

Story on A1

[Jaded]

for later

[patriot_wes]

"I am all in favor of a dialogue between science and religion, but not a constructive dialogue. One of the great achievements of science has been, if not to make it impossible for an intelligent person to be religious, then at least to make it possible for them not to be religious. We should not retreat from this accomplishment."

- Physicist Steven Weinberg (Washington D.C. 1999)

[Migraine]

Evolutionist Catholic Miller: "Their God is like a kid who is not a very good mechanic and has to keep lifting the hood and tinkering with the engine."

Not so. Not even very polite. Hard to believe it's Christian thinking. "Their God" (my God) created organic "engines" with minds of their own; and He keeps intervening, for their own good, whenever they screw up, because He loves them. We refer to it as supernatural, because it is; and we evangelicals believe that it's personal, not some cosmic force.

[Getready]

I hope you noticed in Millers explanation of the
bacterial flagellum argument of Behe he cites of the
work which has described part of the protein structure of
the flagellum as a homology of some bacterias TISS.

Miller does not describe if the TISS is the exact structure as
is found in the flagellum. He cites work by Aziwa(sp?) which
purports and recommends that the proteins are homologous.
I believe homology assumes a relationship. These are not
from what I could gather exact duplicate biochemical entites
, but rather are similar. If they are not exact, how could they be
considered as pertinent to the argument. Miller states
the argument of intelligent design fails because there is
evidence of one of the "irreducible" parts found in nature
which is actually functional. Yet the "irreducible" part
cited is not really the same as the flagellums part, but
a "homology"....and I would guess the next line is....
since evolution is TRUE, the non-exact part(TISS) would
eventually become part of the flagellum parts which of course
proves that intelligent design is false.

I would have liked to have seen a better piece of evidence
than a proposed "homologous" biochemical structure.

Of course, there still is assembly, functional need for
such a flagellum, other "homologous" flagelli analysis, genetic
control of sysnthesis of these structures etc, questions
needed to be done, but if they are interpreted by the "homology" test
then it is applying a biased point of view.
I was glad Miller at least acknowledged that life indeed
is marvelous. I got tired of hearing that life was
based on a "bag of gels, and solutions", that somehow
(and we still don't know how) got to where we are.

P.S. --Test your bias here folks:

If God created life very quickly, would that be considered
evolution on a very fast scale? Or if God used sloooooooowww
mindless chemical reations would that be slow creation?

[AntiGuv]

Wow. You've really only posted 300 threads (or something thereabouts)? I've posted 456 and I surely would've guessed that you'd posted more than I had.

Happy tricentad!

[eagle11]

Ay Patrick! Another Evolution...thread. Well, I say evolution is a viable theory that explains the vast number of species on our planet, after all...Darwin's book is titled "The Origin of Species", not "The Origin of life". I'm not an evangelical...but a Christian no less...and I have no aversion to evolution, it is our best attempt at explaining God's "handiwork". The theory of evolution (and nucleosynthesis and the Cosmological Principle) gives us hope that we are not alone in the universe, and that space is "humming" with lifeforms in some way similiar to ours. Thanks for another thread!

[balrog666]

This appears to be a surprisingly balanced article, so the Cthulhuians will hate it.

[ValenB4]

Excellent post! Bravo!

[Turbopilot]

What's the difference between creationism and intelligent design? What hypothesis does intelligent design make that, when tested, would give a result different from what evolutionary theory would expect? Thanks.

[CobaltBlue]

"I think there is a God, and he is the creator of the universe," Miller said. "But the God of the intelligent-design movement is way too small... . In their view, he designed everything in the world and yet he repeatedly intervenes and violates the laws of his own creation.

"Their God is like a kid who is not a very good mechanic and has to keep lifting the hood and tinkering with the engine."

My views in a nutshell, and I notice that the speaker, like me, is Catholic.

[b_sharp]

"This is the 300th thread I've posted, not counting those pulled during the Luddite War. Everyone be nice."

Congrats.

It's a tough job, but someone has to do it. Thanks.

[verity]

"Evangelicals divided over evolution"

Totally irrelevant.