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This is the 300th thread I've posted, not counting those pulled during the Luddite War. Everyone be nice.
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2 posted on
05/30/2005 7:55:38 AM PDT by
PatrickHenry
(Felix, qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas. The List-O-Links is at my homepage.)
To: PatrickHenry
Can God and evolution coexist? Sure! God created evolution. Case solved!
To: PatrickHenry
Mainstream media will push any story that can possibly start with "Evangelicals divided". At least they aren't saying "Religious Right" anymore.
5 posted on
05/30/2005 7:58:31 AM PDT by
Betaille
(Capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; Socialism is the equal sharing of miseries)
To: PatrickHenry
This is the 300th thread I've posted, not counting those pulled during the Luddite War. Sir, you're a gentleman and a scholar.
To: PatrickHenry
This is the 300th thread I've posted, not counting those pulled during the Luddite War.I missed that war but I can imagine it.
10 posted on
05/30/2005 8:19:20 AM PDT by
aculeus
(Ceci n'est pas une tag line.)
To: PatrickHenry
This is the 300th thread I've posted, not counting those pulled during the Luddite War. Everyone be nice. May you post 30 more!
11 posted on
05/30/2005 8:22:59 AM PDT by
VadeRetro
( Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
To: PatrickHenry
Can God and evolution coexist?
No.
Either the Bible is true or it is not.
The Hebrew CLEARLY translated is seven LITERAL days.
So those that do not believe in Creation, I dare say, aren't Christians. Christians follow Christ and that means what is written in the Bible.
Matt.7:15
[14] Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
Col.2:6
[8] Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
Yes, those "wise" evolutionists ... LOL!
Their initial premise is there is NO God.
1Cor.3:18
[18] Let no man deceive himself. If any man among you seemeth to be wise in this world, let him become a fool, that he may be wise.
12 posted on
05/30/2005 8:25:02 AM PDT by
nmh
(Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
To: PatrickHenry
News Headline:
FLASH! THOSE WHO ACTUALLY BELIEVE THE BIBLE WHEN THEY READ IT BELIEVE IN CREATION!
Some Bible readers admit that the Bible says "CREATION" but just don't believe it!
Story on A1
13 posted on
05/30/2005 8:27:46 AM PDT by
RaceBannon
((Prov 28:1 KJV) The wicked flee when no man pursueth: but the righteous are bold as a lion.)
To: PatrickHenry
14 posted on
05/30/2005 8:31:19 AM PDT by
Jaded
(Hell sometimes has flourescent lighting and a trumpet.)
To: PatrickHenry
"I am all in favor of a dialogue between science and religion, but not a constructive dialogue. One of the great achievements of science has been, if not to make it impossible for an intelligent person to be religious, then at least to make it possible for them not to be religious. We should not retreat from this accomplishment." - Physicist Steven Weinberg (Washington D.C. 1999)
16 posted on
05/30/2005 8:39:11 AM PDT by
patriot_wes
(papal infallibility - a proud tradition since 1869)
To: PatrickHenry
Evolutionist Catholic Miller:
"Their God is like a kid who is not a very good mechanic and has to keep lifting the hood and tinkering with the engine." Not so. Not even very polite. Hard to believe it's Christian thinking. "Their God" (my God) created organic "engines" with minds of their own; and He keeps intervening, for their own good, whenever they screw up, because He loves them. We refer to it as supernatural, because it is; and we evangelicals believe that it's personal, not some cosmic force.
18 posted on
05/30/2005 8:44:11 AM PDT by
Migraine
To: PatrickHenry
I hope you noticed in Millers explanation of the
bacterial flagellum argument of Behe he cites of the
work which has described part of the protein structure of
the flagellum as a homology of some bacterias TISS.
Miller does not describe if the TISS is the exact structure as
is found in the flagellum. He cites work by Aziwa(sp?) which
purports and recommends that the proteins are homologous.
I believe homology assumes a relationship. These are not
from what I could gather exact duplicate biochemical entites
, but rather are similar. If they are not exact, how could they be
considered as pertinent to the argument. Miller states
the argument of intelligent design fails because there is
evidence of one of the "irreducible" parts found in nature
which is actually functional. Yet the "irreducible" part
cited is not really the same as the flagellums part, but
a "homology"....and I would guess the next line is....
since evolution is TRUE, the non-exact part(TISS) would
eventually become part of the flagellum parts which of course
proves that intelligent design is false.
I would have liked to have seen a better piece of evidence
than a proposed "homologous" biochemical structure.
Of course, there still is assembly, functional need for
such a flagellum, other "homologous" flagelli analysis, genetic
control of sysnthesis of these structures etc, questions
needed to be done, but if they are interpreted by the "homology" test
then it is applying a biased point of view.
I was glad Miller at least acknowledged that life indeed
is marvelous. I got tired of hearing that life was
based on a "bag of gels, and solutions", that somehow
(and we still don't know how) got to where we are.
P.S. --Test your bias here folks:
If God created life very quickly, would that be considered
evolution on a very fast scale? Or if God used sloooooooowww
mindless chemical reations would that be slow creation?
22 posted on
05/30/2005 8:55:41 AM PDT by
Getready
((...Fear not ...))
To: PatrickHenry
Wow. You've really only posted 300 threads (or something thereabouts)? I've posted 456 and I surely would've guessed that you'd posted more than I had.
Happy tricentad!
24 posted on
05/30/2005 8:58:55 AM PDT by
AntiGuv
(™)
To: PatrickHenry
Ay Patrick! Another Evolution...thread. Well, I say evolution is a viable theory that explains the vast number of species on our planet, after all...Darwin's book is titled "The Origin of Species", not "The Origin of life". I'm not an evangelical...but a Christian no less...and I have no aversion to evolution, it is our best attempt at explaining God's "handiwork". The theory of evolution (and nucleosynthesis and the Cosmological Principle) gives us hope that we are not alone in the universe, and that space is "humming" with lifeforms in some way similiar to ours. Thanks for another thread!
25 posted on
05/30/2005 9:07:39 AM PDT by
eagle11
(Left Lane Ending...Merge Right!)
To: PatrickHenry
This appears to be a surprisingly balanced article, so the Cthulhuians will hate it.
26 posted on
05/30/2005 9:09:41 AM PDT by
balrog666
(A myth by any other name is still inane.)
To: PatrickHenry
32 posted on
05/30/2005 9:49:07 AM PDT by
ValenB4
("Every system is perfectly designed to get the results it gets." - Isaac Asimov)
To: PatrickHenry
What's the difference between creationism and intelligent design? What hypothesis does intelligent design make that, when tested, would give a result different from what evolutionary theory would expect? Thanks.
33 posted on
05/30/2005 9:53:31 AM PDT by
Turbopilot
(Viva la Reagan Revolucion!)
To: PatrickHenry
"I think there is a God, and he is the creator of the universe," Miller said. "But the God of the intelligent-design movement is way too small... . In their view, he designed everything in the world and yet he repeatedly intervenes and violates the laws of his own creation. "Their God is like a kid who is not a very good mechanic and has to keep lifting the hood and tinkering with the engine."
My views in a nutshell, and I notice that the speaker, like me, is Catholic.
44 posted on
05/30/2005 10:51:37 AM PDT by
CobaltBlue
(Extremism in the defence of liberty is no vice. Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
To: PatrickHenry
"This is the 300th thread I've posted, not counting those pulled during the Luddite War. Everyone be nice." Congrats.
It's a tough job, but someone has to do it. Thanks.
46 posted on
05/30/2005 10:55:07 AM PDT by
b_sharp
(Science adjusts theories to fit evidence, creationism distorts evidence to fit the Bible.)
To: PatrickHenry
"Evangelicals divided over evolution"
Totally irrelevant.
47 posted on
05/30/2005 10:58:04 AM PDT by
verity
(A mindset is an antidote to logic.)
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