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To: cooper72
"Two things, the UK is in reality an invented nonstarter of internal nations, so we live with other nations being our own and yet totally different."

Okayyy. . .

But then you say:

"America is so large and so diverse you have to have a focal point that all the different peoples can feel part of. In the UK it is more internal. "

I see you arguing that the UK is "diverse" and yet one. . .and you argue the US is also.

"Join now. . .THEIR country needs you" (A MoD recruiting slogan from the late '90's, and hardly appealign to the patriotism of the soldier).

I'd say this indicates no sense of true patriotism. That slogan was asking recruits to serve--and possibly die--for another country. . .not the UK. That is not patriotism.

American's serve to defend, to protect American interests. . and absent American national security concerns, such service would be no different than mucking about while wearing a blue helmet. American's serve their nation and if there is any question that the loss of blood or life is not in support of the national security of the United States, then the American people have no tolerance for such nonsense. See http://www.airpower.maxwell.af.mil/airchronicles/apj/apj01/spr01/vorspr01.html
This article explains the concept easily.

"Never surrender?"

I hope that is true but the islamification of your country is frightening and unchecked. Best get a patriotic grip on that and abandon that multicultural creed. Multiculturalism is anti-patriot.

When did you get let out of the penalty box?
112 posted on 05/31/2005 9:51:56 AM PDT by Gunrunner2
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To: Gunrunner2
"Two things, the UK is in reality an invented nonstarter of internal nations, so we live with other nations being our own and yet totally different." Okayyy. . . But then you say: "America is so large and so diverse you have to have a focal point that all the different peoples can feel part of. In the UK it is more internal. " I see you arguing that the UK is "diverse" and yet one. . .and you argue the US is also.

I NEVER said the UK is diverse, you have quoted me incorrectly. I said America is diverse, but that the UK is a nation-state made up of different nations.

"Join now. . .THEIR country needs you" (A MoD recruiting slogan from the late '90's, and hardly appealign to the patriotism of the soldier). I'd say this indicates no sense of true patriotism. That slogan was asking recruits to serve--and possibly die--for another country. . .not the UK. That is not patriotism. American's serve to defend, to protect American interests. . and absent American national security concerns, such service would be no different than mucking about while wearing a blue helmet. American's serve their nation and if there is any question that the loss of blood or life is not in support of the national security of the United States, then the American people have no tolerance for such nonsense. See http://www.airpower.maxwell.af.mil/airchronicles/apj/apj01/spr01/vorspr01.html This article explains the concept easily.

So no American soldiers have died to defend another country? At least you are being truthful that Iraq, Afghanistan, WW2 etc were not for the benefit of liberating the opressed but in America's national self-interest. At least you are not falling for the myth, of which I salute you.

"Never surrender?" I hope that is true but the islamification of your country is frightening and unchecked. Best get a patriotic grip on that and abandon that multicultural creed. Multiculturalism is anti-patriot.

There is the same proportion of muslims in Britain as there is in America. Around 2.5%. Plus America is the most multi-cultural place on the planet. No-where else in the world is there so many peoples, religions, open sexualities etc.

When did you get let out of the penalty box?

The moderator knows I am not anti-american! :)

114 posted on 05/31/2005 11:27:04 AM PDT by cooper72
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