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Stairway to Nowhere, No Whites Allowed
fox news ^ | 5-29-05 | Scott Norvell

Posted on 05/29/2005 10:48:38 PM PDT by LouAvul

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To: write_on61

That's nice.

I'm so very gratified to know that I'm still allowed to hold such views. Possibly, the next time I have an independent thought I'll run it by you first and you can tell me what I really mean.

You do it so well.


81 posted on 05/31/2005 12:52:51 PM PDT by incredulous joe ("The wise man never argues with the fool; casual observers may not be able to tell which is which.")
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To: incredulous joe

You said liberals hold certain views, yet you are the one espousing them here. Who am I to question your reasoning?


82 posted on 05/31/2005 1:34:38 PM PDT by write_on61
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To: Fruit of the Spirit
No, I didn't miss it. The ACLU is attempting to have the whole thing reversed.

That would be quite a feat, considering that the Boy Scouts won in the Supreme Court.

And the ACLU is also attempting to stop the BSA from making any reference to God

How exactly would the ACLU be able to prevent the Boy Scouts from referencing God?

83 posted on 05/31/2005 1:41:37 PM PDT by Modernman ("Laws are like sausages, it is better not to see them being made. " -Bismarck)
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To: write_on61

As you don't know me it would be wise not to question my reasoning.

I tell you what I'll do - saving myself the time and all the heavy lifting - I'll stand by my statement that liberals espouse views that do not employ reason and logic, and I'll let you prove the negative of "how this is not so".

Isn't this how you work it?

Then I'll simply respond by calling you a small-minded bigot. How's that sound? You can have the last word on this thread. I'm done playing your game.

Peace.


84 posted on 05/31/2005 2:14:02 PM PDT by incredulous joe ("I believe that unarmed truth and unconditional love will have the final word in reality." MLK)
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To: Fruit of the Spirit; America's Resolve; hershey; DugwayDuke

As I said, "The problem is...that social-conscience-forces intrude upon such a private matter in other situations."

A tit-for-tat mentality on this kind of issue only legitimizes the concept that government belongs in the arena of dictating our choices of association. Just because there are hypocrites who want government to selectively dictate choices of association to private groups, don't be pulled into that mindset.


85 posted on 05/31/2005 5:46:40 PM PDT by zincfinger
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To: LouAvul
He should start The National Association of Caucasian Social Workers.
86 posted on 05/31/2005 5:51:59 PM PDT by reg45
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To: Texas_Jarhead

Capital "B" Black Race, eh?

Nah, they aren't racist.


87 posted on 05/31/2005 5:53:51 PM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (-I can only contribute to FR monthly, but Hillary's ABBCNNBCBS contributes to her campaign every day)
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To: Modernman


http://www.bsalegal.org/scripts/print.asp?pg=153

Many regarded the Supreme Court's ruling in the Dale case not merely as a victory for Boy Scouts, but also as a victory for freedom of speech.  Others, however, regarded it as a call to battle, and they set out to punish Scouting for standing up for, and affirming, its First Amendment freedoms.  Leading that attack have been state and local governments, frequently aided and abetted by the American Civil Liberties Union, or ACLU.
 
At the beginning of 2004, Boy Scouts is engaged in litigation about its relationship with government.

l   Litigation regarding access to government forums

This litigation takes place against a historical backdrop of cases challenging Boy Scouts’ membership and leadership standards.

l   Litigation regarding Scouting’s “duty to God”

l   Litigation regarding Scouting’s duty to be “morally straight”

l   Litigation regarding girls seeking membership


88 posted on 05/31/2005 9:30:48 PM PDT by Fruit of the Spirit
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To: write_on61

Do you think that being a rude a**hole helps your "argument"?


89 posted on 05/31/2005 9:43:39 PM PDT by porkchops 4 mahound (I can be rude or polite, I prefer polite, but believe it, I can speak "deck" rude. You pick.)
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To: incredulous joe

You were the one who made the claims.


90 posted on 05/31/2005 11:14:24 PM PDT by write_on61
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To: porkchops 4 mahound

Do you think confusing the issues helps yours?





91 posted on 05/31/2005 11:20:11 PM PDT by write_on61
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To: LouAvul
Many of these so called social workers have led the fight that most race baiter's start.

Now the shoe is on the other foot and guess what, these dumb butts are getting their just medicine.

I tell these liberal asshole don't come running and asking for my sympathy.

Remember me you elitists thinking ignoramuses.

I was the guy that screamed for your help when the race baiter's attacked.

Remember you told me that my Whitey bigoted racists views were out of date. That times had changed and it was equal rights for all. Well you reap what you sow.
92 posted on 05/31/2005 11:23:30 PM PDT by OKIEDOC (LL THE)
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To: LouAvul

This is one of the groups that opposed transracial adoption and even transracial foster care, as per their 1972 statement ( http://darkwing.uoregon.edu/~adoption/archive/NabswTRA.htm ).


93 posted on 05/31/2005 11:58:09 PM PDT by skr (May God bless those in harm's way and confound those who would do the harming)
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To: write_on61
I find it difficult to understand where I have "confused the issues"?

What?, specifically?, is confusing about my sole premise?

"RACE is unchangeable, NATIONALITY is changeable."
94 posted on 06/01/2005 5:52:20 PM PDT by porkchops 4 mahound (Race does NOT equal Nationality. This is confusing?)
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To: hosepipe
If somebody one white parent and one black parent does that make them "black".?.

Only if they are a Democrat.

95 posted on 06/01/2005 5:55:04 PM PDT by m87339 (If you could see what a drag it is to see you.)
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To: porkchops 4 mahound

Perhaps you will go back and read my earlier responses.

And by the way, national origin is actually considered a basis of discrimination that will trigger the highest level of equal protection scrutiny by a court. It is also included as a category of prohibited discrimination in many state laws.

While you say it is not immutable, it is immutable for all practical purposes at the time the discrimination takes place.

And then there is the example of the immutable characteristic of gender. Using your premise, restricting membership in Promisekeepers or a college fraternity to men is immoral.



96 posted on 06/01/2005 11:07:26 PM PDT by write_on61
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To: write_on61
Pard, you are correct. Limiting any organization to members of ANY immutable trait, ie., race, gender/sex, age..., is WRONG.

At least it's wrong if a person is intellectually honest and consistent about "prejudice", and "a level playing field."

BTW, abuse does not trump correct use, that is to say just because something has been done historically does not mean it is correct.

I am well aware of the left's attempt to control the parameters of public discourse by changing the meaning of key words, ie, "undocumented aliens" for ILLEGAL aliens, or "national origin" as a PC marker for RACE.

These people understand that verbal language is the beginning of thought which is the beginning of ACTION.
97 posted on 06/03/2005 9:29:19 AM PDT by porkchops 4 mahound ("In the beginning there was the WORD." Is more than hyperbole, I think.)
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