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All 50 states acknowledge God in state constitutions: No "separation" intended by founders
Email | MAY 29, 2005 | Unknown

Posted on 05/29/2005 8:36:57 PM PDT by CHARLITE

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To: CHARLITE

The athiests are so quick to point out that Jefferson is the one who said the "...wall of separation between Church and State". I belive Levin (or was it Hannity) points out in his book, Jefferson went to a church service that same day, held in the same room that was used for congressional meetings.

Jefferson is also the original author of the Declaration of Independence which clearly shows reverence for God. In no way did Jefferson or the vast majority of the founders of our country intend that the government would be Godless, rather they wanted to prevent the government restricting religious freedom.

They didn't want the government establishing a religion like the Church of England, not because they didn't want God in the lives of people or in the government, rather because they wanted to ensure the freedom for individuals to worship God as they pleased. They were fine with religion in the government (through the individual religious freedom), they just didn't want government in religion. I am astounded that the athiests have been generally successful in turning this around to say that the Founders didn't wanted God in the government.


41 posted on 05/30/2005 7:45:09 AM PDT by FractalMan
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Neutral doesn't mean oppresses all religion and any reference to God. But the athiests seem to think that it does. This is what is so frustrating. "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof..." Why can't everyone read this for what it says - Congress cannot make a law that establishes a religion nor can Congress make a law that prohibits free exercise of religion.

To interpret this as meaning that government money cannot be spent on anything related to God is beyond me. But then again, I am just a simpleton who reads the Constitution as it is written and I don't try to squeeze my agenda out of it.


43 posted on 05/30/2005 12:59:57 PM PDT by FractalMan
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Obviously my statements don't apply to you, but either you are not aware of the active athiests who are out to remove every mention of God in the country, like the person trying to remove "Under God" from the Pledge of Allegiance. Today the government is hardly neutral. There are far too many in the court system who want God removed from every aspect of the government. This is not what the Founders intended. There are people trying to get rid of Chaplins in the military. It won't be long before there will be court cases trying to have every mention of God in Washington DC removed from every building. Athiests pressing for this kind of change are hardly low profile.


45 posted on 05/30/2005 3:47:53 PM PDT by FractalMan
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To: CHARLITE

bttt


47 posted on 06/28/2005 7:11:17 AM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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Without God, there are no limits on the powers of government.

The argument of "establishment" is bogus. The references to God (Ten Commandments, etc) being opposed are opposed because they show the source for a just government and limitations on its powers.

God save the world from a Godless America. We would make Adolph Hitler and the Germans look like a clown circus.


48 posted on 06/28/2005 8:14:16 AM PDT by Empire_of_Liberty
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seem to have gone out of their way to avoid mentioning God at all in the Preamble or the body of the entire thing

You may have missed this in the Preamble:

"To Secure the Blessings of Liberty to Ourselves and Our Posterity..." From whom do blessings come, if not from our Creator?

49 posted on 06/28/2005 8:37:26 AM PDT by 11th_VA (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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