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Freezing gas prices
Oklahoma News Channel 4 ^ | May 25, 2005 | ALI MEYER

Posted on 05/29/2005 6:52:50 PM PDT by johnwayne

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To: johnwayne
This sounds like another unrealistic dreanm.

What is the cost for the liquid nitrogen. or the means to produce it?

21 posted on 05/29/2005 7:35:42 PM PDT by Cobra64
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To: johnwayne

Bull hockey!!!


22 posted on 05/29/2005 7:50:53 PM PDT by CommandoFrank (Peer into the depths of hell and you will find the face of Islam...)
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To: freeandfreezing

Maybe the Laws of Thermodynamics have been repealed.

Seriously, no one should get a degree in Journalism without 3 semesters of physics, a couple of hours of chemistry, and a course or two on thermo and heat transfer.


23 posted on 05/29/2005 7:52:07 PM PDT by AlbertWang
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To: diogenes ghost

Freezing means we use global warming to freeze the planet then all learn how to ski.


24 posted on 05/29/2005 7:53:14 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: johnwayne

I have some Free Zing in my engine, but it is more like Cea Zing.


25 posted on 05/29/2005 8:04:41 PM PDT by Leo Carpathian (FReeeePeee!)
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To: AlbertWang
Maybe the Laws of Thermodynamics have been repealed.

Not at all. The properties of a given metal change with temperature and purity of the metal. Super metals such as iron which is normally (if I remember correctly) about 96-97% pure become 4-5 times harder than steel if processed to 99% pure or better. The cost incurred to get 99% purity is the drawback. Purity allows the atoms and electrons to form a more congruent pattern with more density when impurities are removed. Heat is a factor and is why we use tempering when heating or cooling metals. It is to set the atom or molecule structure which determines the strength and durability of the metal. I think that this process works because it is just another form of tempering to an intense degree without removing the impurities. That is the colder the metal the closer the atoms and electrons and it becomes stronger, smoother, and more durable. The reason the heat is brought up only 1 degree at a time is preserve the atom or molecular structure. However, without removing the impurities the metal will eventually over time return to a less durable state because of the temperature difference. If the structure could be maintain the engine should last indefinitely. The fact that it only last 4-5 times as long as a regular engine is verification that the structures. As far as increases in gas mileage the only benefit's I see is less heat produced from friction. The combustion engine is a heat engine that runs off the heat produced by its fuel. The Law of Thermodynamics is that a gas combustible engine has a maximum efficiency of only 47% and the rest of the energy produced is heat lost. The cars that I loved in the 50's and 60's were only 30-35% efficient. Mileage increase is due to the fact that cars today are 40% or more efficient. There is only so many BTU's of heat or energy in a gallon of gas and in a ideal car 47% would be used as energy to move the car and 53% would be heat loss. Because of the Thermodynamics, I don't think its possible to double the gas mileage of a car if the weight and aerodynamics remain the same.
26 posted on 05/29/2005 10:11:36 PM PDT by jec41 (Screaming Eagle)
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To: diogenes ghost

Less friction on the metal?


27 posted on 06/03/2005 11:23:36 PM PDT by america-rules
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To: biblewonk

Ping for your entertainment.


28 posted on 06/07/2005 7:54:36 PM PDT by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary. You have the right to be wrong.)
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My brother in law invented this super efficient carburator that got 100 mpg from a Chevy 350. But Big auto and big oil companies killed him.


29 posted on 06/09/2005 5:27:34 AM PDT by biblewonk (Yes I think I am a bible worshipper.)
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