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Filibuster battle altering '08 presidential landscape
THE WASHINGTON TIMES ^ | May 29, 2005 | By Ralph Z. Hallow

Posted on 05/29/2005 2:33:50 PM PDT by strategofr

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To: strategofr
If memory serves me, their ad was replayed repeatedly on Fox (for free) as a news item.

I recall FNC playing the ad (that the Swifties had to fund and produce because the media ignored them), although I don't recall how often it was played. And I don't recall any other outlets giving them much air time without them forking over the $$$$.

101 posted on 06/01/2005 4:14:01 AM PDT by Coop (In memory of a true hero - Pat Tillman)
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To: Coop

"And I don't recall any other outlets giving them much air time without them forking over the $$$$."

Yes, it was just Fox. And they are sympathetic to the truth. Maybe I was being overly suspicious.

And maybe there is a way to get Fox to cover HillaryCrimes. But it hasn't happened yet, that I've heard.


102 posted on 06/01/2005 7:57:44 AM PDT by strategofr (What did happen to those 293 boxes of secret FBI files (esp on Senators) Hillary stole?)
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To: strategofr
[ If I'm right, watch him do it, and re-consider, if you will, the tag of "moron." ]

OK.OK.. I use "moron" as agitprop when what I mean is "dupe" just like ol' "Read my lips no taxes".. was.. The boy is a dupe. The only question is, a dupe of whom.?..

One thing, the boy is obviously not a republican.. maybe hes a democrat.. He seems to be for an almost free democracy, not a free republic.. Big difference between a democracy and a republic.. especially this republic.. Bush seems to be a democrat not by what hes says, but by what he DOES.. just like his Daddy.. BOTH are RINOs.. judging by what they do not what say.. and sometimes by what they SAY TO..

"I'm a Unite'er NOT a Divide'er".. is a suspicious statement especially since he spends a lot of time Uniting with democrats and 3rd world drug lords like Vincente Fox.. But then I suppose there are a few simpletons that are unaware Fox IS the figuehead of (a) drug cabal(s)-(Mexican gov't).. and that mexicans coming across the border are not immigrants but insurgents(most of them)..

Its true, I don't like Bush, never did, from the moment he entered the primary's.. right after Salon.com broke the possibility of him running for Prez..

Said I; Salon? mentioning a republican for the primary's in a positive light?.. Somethings wrong here.. I need to keep an eye on this ringer.. Bush has not failed to disappoint.. Whats really amazing is the democrats have judicially failed to mention "read my lips no new taxes".. at all..

And easy gaff.. to suppose the democrats missed it, is to fly in the face of Occams Razor.. They didn't miss it.. So I ask again.. The only question is, a dupe of whom.?.. maybe he isn't a dupe but a ringer, a shill.. because he sure is NOT a republican.. The only, BushBot just might be BUSH HIMSELF..

103 posted on 06/01/2005 9:23:56 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been ok'ed by me to included some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: hosepipe

"The only question is, a dupe of whom.?.."

Everyone who thinks seriously about our government wanders a hall of mirrors sometimes. The selection of the President is a huge compromise and bound to be disappointing to many.

Bush has severe limitations, granted.

"uniter not divider" is political rhetoric. It is a counterattack against the media portrayal of him as Hitler II. It also happens to be true, Bush is a uniter. See his Texas history. That is Bush's personality. And its not bad, as rhetoric. Sometimes, when a fight is needed, being a uniter is bad for the country, I'll agree.

Pause a moment and consider the past 4-1/2 years. The nation might be in much worse shape than it is, in many ways. Having a uniter at the helm has some advantages in a time like this.

As far as Fox, Bush tried to be his "friend" and Fox spit in his face. Fox is a complete political failure. He thought this would help him, but it didn't. Bush does not handle attacks on his person well (see 1st debate with Gore)

Bush has many limitations. He's not real smart, but not stupid either. But he has prevented a 2nd terror attack on the US, taken the offensive in the Middle East, pretty effectively, avoided a major recession after the twin disasters of 9-11 and the burst of the 90's Internet Bubble, in large part via the tax cuts.

He's been President in a difficult period, and kept the country in good shape. If you want to delve a little into his character and intentions, research Dick Cheney, the rock he depends on. Probably the best American we have right now. Rummy is 1st rate also. (As you've acknowleged, good advisers. But doesn't this contradict your evaluation of Bush as a tool of sinister interests?)


104 posted on 06/01/2005 2:05:53 PM PDT by strategofr (What did happen to those 293 boxes of secret FBI files (esp on Senators) Hillary stole?)
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[ (As you've acknowleged, good advisers. But doesn't this contradict your evaluation of Bush as a tool of sinister interests?) ]

LoL... Bush is Bill Clinton with family values that can't form the word traitor in his mouth.. I don't respect that.. The man can't even utter the word sedition let alone traitor..

Theres a thousand ways to say traitor and sedition by parseing and he knows none of it.. having been to Yale and Harvard he should at least know a few ways.. Probably was a man pleaser in college too.. Perfect territory for devoloping a "dupe"..(being a man pleaser) by smarter operators.. The man has ten pole marks all over him.. Appeasement never works.. ever.. Democrats know that, Republicans do NOT.. There is no room for a "pleaser" in that job.. especially with the job that SHOULD BE done in that position..

But, He seems to pleaseing nobody.. I could respect that.. IF he was trying to do that.. Teddy 'R" had it right, "speak softly and carry a big stick".. Bush can not cold cock anybody anybody with a pillow.. He needs a stick.

105 posted on 06/01/2005 8:53:37 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been ok'ed by me to included some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: Vigilanteman
I think it will come down to Allen and Mitt Romney

Good Lord! Mitt Romney?

106 posted on 06/01/2005 8:57:31 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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Please think of what you just wrote. Condi won't win anything. She's a great lady, but she is also pro-abortion. The base of the GOP will not accept a pro-abortion candidate. George Allen is also a former governor. He has what it takes to win. Condi is not Ike -- one of the few never to have held elective office before winning the presidency.


107 posted on 06/01/2005 9:01:04 PM PDT by sruleoflaw
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George Allen is also a former governor. He has what it takes to win

Nope, nobody west of Kentucky has ever heard of this guy.

Hillary will beat him like a red haired step child. If he gets the nod, we've lost the whitehouse. Its that simple.

Even that flake Morris says so, and he's right more often than he is wrong (although he has been spectucularly wrong on occasion). Morris concurs, that the only person who can beat Hillary is Condi, and in spite of what others say, she WILL accept the nomination, and she has the know how.

A president's power to do anything about abortion is way over rated, its a legislative and court issue. Condi is a goos soldier and will do what is needed.

Allen may be a team player, but he can't beat Hillary, and there is no knowledgeable political analyist that thinks he can. You have to wake up and smell the coffee. Allen can't beat Hillary. Its that simple.

108 posted on 06/01/2005 11:35:39 PM PDT by konaice
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They said the same thing about him in the '93 governor race when he went up against a popular female Dem Lt. Gov. and he was a one-term congressman. He started 30 points down and beat her by double digits.

If Condi wants it, she's going to have to run in the primaries. No one gets handed nominations anymore.


109 posted on 06/02/2005 11:14:18 AM PDT by ReagansRaiders (Unofficial George Allen for President online store -- www.cafepress.com/georgeallen2008)
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To: ReagansRaiders
He started 30 points down and beat her by double digits.

This is the Major Leagues we are talking about her, not local politics. Hillary will pull the women (even many conservative women), the liberals, the blacks, and hispanics.

You people have to decide wether you want to take on all that with some no-name farm boy that no one has heard of beyond his own state.

He can't beat Hillary.

110 posted on 06/02/2005 11:21:10 AM PDT by konaice
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You obviously haven't been reading the newspapers (news articles and nationally syndicated opinion columns), watching TV or listening to talk radio lately if you think no one outside of VA has heard of Allen.

This no-name farm boy as you call him was chairman of the NRSC and orchestrated the defeat of Daschle (Thune's campaign manager is now Allen's CoS) and increased the GOP Senate majority by a net of 4 seats. He also was working all the state delegations at the GOP convention in NYC last summer. He's got 3 years to become a household name. He's already well-known and well-positioned among the GOP base.

Don't get me wrong, I like Condi and think if she ran that she could probably beat Hillary. I don't think that she has the fire in her belly to run an actual political campaign, though. I'm sure she has the fire to be President, just not to be a candidate for President.


111 posted on 06/02/2005 11:53:31 AM PDT by ReagansRaiders (Unofficial George Allen for President online store -- www.cafepress.com/georgeallen2008)
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