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To: wagglebee
Trinity: The Godhead is unified in Three Persons, the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit.

I can read of 'the Father', I can read of 'the Son' and I can read of the 'Holy Spirit' - where am I supposed to read 'unified in three persons'? My point is, the dogma ads to what Scripture says, and by doing so violates the very principle of Deut 6:4, which is what Yeshua ['Jesus'] quotes when He declares the Greatest Commandment in Matt 22. Here it is, sing it loud because this one ain't dogma, it is pure Scripture: G-d is ONE. (Deut 6:4; James 2:19)

Heresy: The act whereby a person who purports to subscribe to a doctrine of belief disavows some teachings or dogmas thereof.

Sheesh, that makes any disavowing of any particular dogma a heresy. Who gets to decide, 'which ones' (ooh, I know... I will, I will...). There are clear reasons for 'cutting off from the camp' - this ain't one of them - but worshipping idols is.

Christian Denomination: An organized body united by a explicit set of dogmas and beliefs.

I am not a part of any organized body as you describe. Since you did not qualify anything about practice, I will assume the most important, and key operator is - which always is a code word for MAN MADE.

What am I? Most humbly, I am not of any faction (1Cor 1). I am a Torah-submissive believer in Yeshua that has studied Scripture for 25 years and come to realize that there have been a lot of men saying a lot of things for the past 2,000 years, that aren't in Scripture. I attend a local congregation that explicitly does NOT call itself 'Christian' since the word has been so trampled in the mud. I worship the G-d of Abraham, the G-d of Isaac, and the G-d of Jacob. I know that Yeshua is Immanu El [G-d with us], and that He died a sacrificial death on the mountains of Moriyah. I know that He was raised on the third day, and sits now at the right hand of the Majesty on High, blessed be His Name. I know that He will fulfill His promises to the physical and spiritual descendents of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob - and return to set up His Kingdom in Jerusalem, reigning from His father David's throne. I know that there is a final resurrection. I know that there is a reward for the righteous, and judgment for the wicked.

I know that faith is an action, not a set of thoughts put down on paper for all to 'agree to' in order to 'get it'. I know the as good as some creeds are, voicing approval of them is no more a guarantee of inputed righteousness than saying you are purple makes you so. For the sake of the analogy, 'purple is as purple does'.

But someone will say that you have faith and I have actions. Show me this faith of yours without the actions, and I will show you my faith by my actions! You believe that 'G-d is one' [or in your case maybe not?] ? Good for you? The demons believe it too - the thought makes them shudder with fear! But, foolish fellow, do you want to be shown that such "faith" apart from actions is barren? Ya'akov 2:18-19 [James 2:18-19]
285 posted on 05/31/2005 6:58:29 PM PDT by safisoft (Give me Torah!)
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To: safisoft
Based upon your explanation, I completely respect your beliefs, they are obviously a source of spiritual strength for you. I hope that you will respect mine even if you disagree with them.
G-d Bless
287 posted on 05/31/2005 7:06:50 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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