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Posted on 05/29/2005 11:31:38 AM PDT by Morgan in Denver

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To: Morgan in Denver
Hey Christie,

No its not. And take the rest of the garbage out with you when you leave!

21 posted on 05/29/2005 12:28:46 PM PDT by Bommer
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To: Morgan in Denver
This explains McCain's sudden love affair with Kyoto and global warming.

Our side needs to do a much better job of educating the average person as to the harm the Kyoto Treaty would do to our economy and employment.

22 posted on 05/29/2005 12:31:38 PM PDT by OldFriend (MAJOR TAMMY DUCKWORTH.....INSPIRATIONAL)
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To: MikeinIraq

A+


23 posted on 05/29/2005 12:34:23 PM PDT by SteveMcKing
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To: longtermmemmory
Perhaps this is an effort for the powerless Rino's to get money from soros and co.

There are a myriad of reasons for making vague gestures of ones willingness to capitulate at any cost. It's a dangerous game in which the most desparate of political parasites seem more than willing to engage.

24 posted on 05/29/2005 12:34:41 PM PDT by eskimo
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To: Morgan in Denver

Thanks for the target list.


25 posted on 05/29/2005 12:36:08 PM PDT by Jimbaugh (They will not get away with this. Developing . . . . .)
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To: Atheist_Canadian_Conservative
1) No.

2) Nobody

The "moderate" Republicans are on a mission and it is working well. They are splitting the base - marginalizing and dividing the cultural conservatives and the pro-gun people who do not believe in a "living constitution."

26 posted on 05/29/2005 12:36:41 PM PDT by penowa
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To: Jimbaugh

You're welcome.

I posted and failed to stay online to respond. Apologies to everyone.

I'll try to catch up.


27 posted on 05/29/2005 12:44:10 PM PDT by Morgan in Denver
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To: PzLdr

I guess moderate means it's okay to kill babies a little bit as long as it's not done totally. I notice Zell Miller is not being called a moderate by the left because he's not as radical as they are.


28 posted on 05/29/2005 12:46:53 PM PDT by Morgan in Denver
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To: MikeinIraq

Unfortunately, most of those moderates essentially became the "tax collectors" for the policies of the dominant liberals of the 1960's and 1970's. It wasn't until a principled Republican (Ronald Reagan) came along and articulated a vision and a set of policies that went beyond the apologetic get-along defeatist "moderation". Reagan was supposed to be a right-wing nut -- he turned out to be the most important and consequential president of the 2nd half of the century.

Where Bush has failed, it has been with his compromising on principle -- his walking away from tried and true conservatism: expanding government spending (education bill), not standing up for his judicial appointments, not engaging the Senate and it's extra-constitutional filibusters of judicial appointments, etc.

Moderates are welcomed under the big GOP tent. But we can't look to moderates for our guiding philosophies and principles -- those are sadly lacking.


29 posted on 05/29/2005 12:46:54 PM PDT by ReleaseTheHounds
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To: MikeinIraq
I would think Allen with Rice could do it.... maybe a couple others, but it is going to be an interesting race...

Seems most everyone is bracing for the ultimate political insult this next election. Several orders of magnitude worse than the last several elections. Hell, this could be "end of game".

30 posted on 05/29/2005 12:48:03 PM PDT by eskimo
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To: eskimo
Christie was all FOR Kyoto. Proving her ignorance.

McCain glommed onto her because he claims that global warming is a bigger threat to humanity than terrorism.

Somehow or other the fake phony frauds find each other.

Christie backstabbed the President with her book and McCain backstabbs the President every chance he can get.

He backstabbed the MIAs and he is nothing more than an opportunist....IMO.

Not worthy of our consideration.

31 posted on 05/29/2005 12:54:22 PM PDT by OldFriend (MAJOR TAMMY DUCKWORTH.....INSPIRATIONAL)
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To: eskimo

I think the third tenet is meant to be vague in a way. There is no question social issues divide Republicans to one degree or another. I'll give Republicans credit for being the party of both sides of the abortion issue and not totally pro-abortion, any time under any circumstances for any reason.

I, for one, would rather have a pro-abortion Republican than a pro-abortion Democrat. At least with pro-abortion Republican's there is still hope of changing minds, and there IS agreement on the other issues so important to all of us.


32 posted on 05/29/2005 12:54:55 PM PDT by Morgan in Denver
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To: Morgan in Denver

So .. is McCain trying to start his own party .. and is Whitman planning to run as his VP ..???

That's what this looks like to me.

Funny thing though - Rasmussen's poll about the "compromise" said that only 22% were happy with it. You can't win elections with 22% support.


33 posted on 05/29/2005 12:55:24 PM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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To: longtermmemmory

Republicans have always had RINO's, in the vernacular of today. We used to call them Country Club Republicans, and Limousine Republicans also strikes a memory bell. Although the latter may be my confusion with Limousine Liberals.

The difference is Republicans will battle it out between us and still support each other once the election is over. Democrats, OTOH, destroy anyone in dissent who does not strictly follow the party line.


34 posted on 05/29/2005 1:01:12 PM PDT by Morgan in Denver
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To: CyberAnt

Whitman or McCain can run, but they can't win the party base. Just a minor item the press fails to report.


35 posted on 05/29/2005 1:05:43 PM PDT by Morgan in Denver
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To: longtermmemmory
"I remember hearing about a movement by in the 1910's or 20' where the elites set about contributing and manipulating both parties so that is would NEVER MATTER which party won. (I think it was michael reagan or another radio show host. Liddy?)"

Yes. Their effort was the result of about seventy years of romanticism (in popular literature, speech saying that adultery is alright for those who are "in love," women and their back-door male feminist friends the arbiters of morality, and so forth). It was a family breaking movement and "our-kids-versus-your-kids" class war.

When they hit us high (politics), we should duck and sweep low (economics and other). Many of the Fortune 500s give money and effort to the most radical of anti-family causes.

They are not "fiscally conservative" at all, as they are those behind current support of the enormous, anti-family social engineering program structure to steal the inheritances of the children of others (those of the "neanderthall" class, as they see social conservatives). ...not to mention public education--a full topic in itself. Enough feminist bureacrat offices taking bits and pieces, and we have a revenue drain of many billions to support those of the "elite" families who are too lazy for the hard sciences.

I sometimes refer to such self-described "moderates" in so many illegitimate PACs as the "whorehouse coalition." They feel that they can better stay on top of things by making sure that the other half of our nation continues to be more of a whorehouse (as opposed to family being the stabilizing force) each term.
36 posted on 05/29/2005 1:29:24 PM PDT by familyop ("Let us try" sounds better, don't you think? "Essayons" is so...Latin.)
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To: Morgan in Denver

Of course we know that .. but if he tries to run as an independent - he can seriously damage a repub win .. and I believe he can also get some of the disgruntled dems who hate Hillary.

While that might dilute Hillary's ability to get in the WH - it would also damage the repubs. A 3-way tie is not something I would ever look forward to.


37 posted on 05/29/2005 2:03:27 PM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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To: Morgan in Denver
I, for one, would rather have a pro-abortion Republican than a pro-abortion Democrat.

Neither should be considered morally acceptable as leaders. Someone who capitulates on one tenet is more like to do the same with others. Why take the chance?

38 posted on 05/29/2005 2:05:44 PM PDT by eskimo
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To: CyberAnt

Me neither. It is harder for a third party GOPer to win today since most of us remember what happened with Perot in the race. As unhappy as conservatives were with Bush 41, the result was the ethically challenged Bill Clinton winning. Few Republicans want to see a repeat.

I believe the press continues to hype McCain in the hope he'll split the voters, or be someone the media can support. McCain more closely resembles the preferred media image of what a good Republican is supposed to be like: a Democrat.


39 posted on 05/29/2005 2:28:10 PM PDT by Morgan in Denver
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To: eskimo

I actually agree with you. The problem is you have to vote and you have two realistic choices. Choose the one you would never agree with on anything, or the one who might change their opinion on one issue while being solid on all the others.

Pataki says he has changed his opinion on abortion. Once he realized abortions were usually used for birth control, he says he changed his opinion.


40 posted on 05/29/2005 2:31:37 PM PDT by Morgan in Denver
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