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State Bills For Online Cigarettes;Residents told to pay taxes on out-of-state smokes
Fort Wayne Journal Gazette ^ | May 29, 2005 | Niki Kelly

Posted on 05/29/2005 6:22:32 AM PDT by John W

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To: Gabz

No proof,no letter is my mantra. Not,of course,that I would ever be in that situation.:>)


101 posted on 05/29/2005 10:47:00 AM PDT by Mears (Keep the government out of my face!)
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To: Mears
Any smart smoker should tell them that when they do the same thing to Amazon,Dell,E-Bay,and all the other companies then they will pay the back taxes on cigarettes.

Well, what upsets me is that anyone can get porn world wide from the Net, and also alcohol.  Nothing is said about that.

But when it comes to cigarettes the lawmakers become obsessed.

102 posted on 05/29/2005 11:09:43 AM PDT by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: SheLion

That's because most lawmakers are nuts!!!!!!!

The heady days of the bootlegger are not far away if these idiots don't use their heads.In fact I think bootlegging is a big problem in NYC already.

Morons!


103 posted on 05/29/2005 11:15:06 AM PDT by Mears (Keep the government out of my face!)
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To: Mears
The heady days of the bootlegger are not far away if these idiots don't use their heads.In fact I think bootlegging is a big problem in NYC already.

The last I heard, cigarettes in NYC were $7.50 a pack.  What person in their right mind is going to pay that!


104 posted on 05/29/2005 11:19:43 AM PDT by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: SheLion

With about $4.50 as tax. Only an idiot would pay that.


105 posted on 05/29/2005 11:22:10 AM PDT by Mears (Keep the government out of my face!)
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To: Gabz
no one can prove you every got it.

Yep.

Only 3 ways to be *legally* served...

and bulk mail ain't one of them!

106 posted on 05/29/2005 11:24:04 AM PDT by MamaTexan (I am NOT a *legal entity* ..... nor am I a 'person' as defined and/or created by law!)
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To: Mears
With about $4.50 as tax. Only an idiot would pay that.

I sure would hate to have to pay that!

When I started smoking, cigarettes were 37 cents a pack. In the vending machine, I put in 40 cents and got back 3 penny's with the pack of cigarettes.

Look how far the price has gone already! Really ridiculous!

107 posted on 05/29/2005 11:30:09 AM PDT by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: Ditter

sorry it took me so long to respond - I actually turned the danged thing off and went to the store and then to a garden center I hadn't been to since it reopenned under new ownership. I can not believe that a garden center would actually be closed today - but it was. To heck with them, tomorrow I will go to the one I usually deal with, which is actually closer to me than the one I tried today.

Here it is a holiday weekend and the weather is finally decent enough for home gardeners to start planting things and they aren't open???? That makes absolutely no sense to me, especially when they are right on the main highway and have all kinds of signs about fresh produce in addition to the plants..........NUTS in my mind.


108 posted on 05/29/2005 1:00:56 PM PDT by Gabz (My give-a-damn is busted.)
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To: Mears

That's my mantra as well - unfortunately it doesn't work with the IRS........but that's a whole 'nother hill of beans discussion.


109 posted on 05/29/2005 1:02:49 PM PDT by Gabz (My give-a-damn is busted.)
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To: Mears; SheLion
The heady days of the bootlegger are not far away if these idiots don't use their heads.

Norm Kjono has at least one column on FORCES about just that thing. If I remember correctly it is "Butts to Bullets" and gives an excellent explanation about how the legislators in the various states are actually helping to fund the terrorism that is killing our men and women in the Armed Forces. Every time the taxes are cranked up, smokers will find another venue to purchase, and many are actually going to the black market.

Remind your legislators of that. Not only are they not going to see the revenue they anticipate because smokers WILL go elsewhere, by forcing the smokers to go elsewhere they (the legislators) who are supposedly elected to help protect us are actually helping fund thos ethat wish us ill.

The number 1 way of eliminating the black market and thus increasing state revenue is by CUTTING cigarette taxes.

110 posted on 05/29/2005 1:12:49 PM PDT by Gabz (My give-a-damn is busted.)
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To: MamaTexan
Only 3 ways to be *legally* served... and bulk mail ain't one of them!

BINGO!!!!!!!!!

It would cost the various states a whole lot less, and they would actually increase their revenue if they cut the cigarette taxes.

111 posted on 05/29/2005 1:14:43 PM PDT by Gabz (My give-a-damn is busted.)
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To: Gabz

Well while you were milling around in the traffic and getting nothing done, I started the bull painting and I am quite pleased with it. Oh course, I could ruin it at any time. LOL


112 posted on 05/29/2005 1:20:25 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: SheLion
But when it comes to cigarettes the lawmakers become obsessed.

I would assume, it's kinda' like trying to enjoy a refreshing cup of tea in the 18th century.

113 posted on 05/29/2005 1:48:39 PM PDT by EGPWS
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It would cost the various states a whole lot less, and they would actually increase their revenue if they cut the cigarette taxes.

But there is more to the agenda than just revenue isn't there.

114 posted on 05/29/2005 1:50:47 PM PDT by EGPWS
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To: Ditter

I'm so happy to hear you got some work done on your bull painting - I really hope you take a picture of it when it's complete - I would love to see it.


115 posted on 05/29/2005 2:19:58 PM PDT by Gabz (My give-a-damn is busted.)
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To: EGPWS
But there is more to the agenda than just revenue isn't there.

Of course there is. But I truly like the idea of reminding them that by increasing the cigarette tax they are actually driving people to find other means of purchasing and that is often the blackmarket, a blackmarket that has been shown to be funding terrorist groups - thus, anyone who supports higher cigarette taxes is actually a supporter of terrorists seeking to kill our men and women in uniform, and us.

In other words - they are TRAITORS.

116 posted on 05/29/2005 2:24:35 PM PDT by Gabz (My give-a-damn is busted.)
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To: Gabz
In other words - they are TRAITORS.

You have spoken well my words Gabz!

You have shown to be more talented in your conveyance than I! ; (

Fly your flag high tomorrow in remembrance of those who have done more to support our freedoms than any one else.

This will be the first Memorial Day for me after the passing of my Father who was a proud member of the "Army Air Corp" during WWII.

117 posted on 05/29/2005 2:33:36 PM PDT by EGPWS
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To: EGPWS

Our flag is flying high and proudly my FRiend and I will offer a prayer of thanks for your dad and a request that he continue to look out for the rest of us.

I can not say it any clearer - anyone supporting increases in cigarette taxes is supporting terrorism. Good grief - even the BATF has stated that.

This is an election year in Virginia - but I am holding off going really public with this position until after the June primaries. The Democrat candidate for Governor is not going to appreciate being called a traitor and supporter of terrorists on July 1st when our cigarette tax goes up another 10cents a pack. My local delegate, who happens to be a friend, and our attorney is also not going to like it when I add him into it. Too bad.


118 posted on 05/29/2005 3:42:46 PM PDT by Gabz (My give-a-damn is busted.)
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To: Gabz
I ordered cigars successfully using a credit card from:

http://www.jrcigars.com (NC)

http://www.cigarsinternational.com and their affiliate http://www.cigarbid.com (PA)

http://www.smokeall.com (SD)

http://www.lilbrown.com(WA)

http://www.mikescigars.com(FL)

Your husband may want to check these guys out for future purchases. The one closest to you will give you the quickest delivery time.
119 posted on 05/29/2005 4:52:53 PM PDT by cgbg (When do I wake up from this socialist nightmare?)
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To: cgbg

My husband orders from Thompson in Tampa - we do not live in a state where they don't deliver!!!!!

But thank you for all the links!


120 posted on 05/29/2005 5:23:41 PM PDT by Gabz (My give-a-damn is busted.)
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