Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 29 May 2005

Various big media television networks ^ | 29 May 2005 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

[kabar]

It is something like MSM bias. There is no conscious attempt to shape views or attitudes. Rather, the recruitment, retention, and advancement policies produce institutional group think. Although lip service is given to the need for internal dissent and whistleblowers, people who openly criticize the institution usually don't get very far up the ladder. It is rare to find catalysts for change among career personnel. Most are "minders" not achievers.

[rodguy911]

Will do for sure!

[Txsleuth]

OH, GOODY, McCain is calling for more hearings re: torture at Gitmo and AG---

He is saying that life isn't fair, but that America HAS to be nice to these poor, poor detainees....

BUT, he wouldn't want to use HIS experience as a POW to influence his opinion....blech

Oh my, he has just mentioned John Warner and Lindsay Graham as wanting to have MORE oversight of the Administration's policies re: treatment of these poor, poor terrorists...blech...

and wouldn't you know that he named Warner and Graham...

Now he is ragging about what a terrible intelligence failure that the WMDs were---I hope that when these WMDs are accounted for (which I believe they will), you put McCain at the head of the line to get his head whacked by Bush...LOL

And why the heck is he echoing the dems talking points, and NOT pointing out that the US is only ONE of dozens of countries and agencies that also said Saddam had them...?

[Morgan in Denver]

Understood. I'd add most MSM types believe they are in the center, while their "center" is farther left than they realize. That's why we hear the "get out of the beltway" comments from some of the pundits who realize the group think of DC is not representative of the rest of America.

[Txsleuth]

Isn't France though, going with a plan, that if the vote is close, that they will have a "do-over" election down the road is say about 6 months???

Wouldn't that kind of keep other countries in limbo, IF they care about France's vote?

If I lived in England or anywhere in Europe, I sure would want my country to keep its absolute sovereignty....wouldn't have any part in a EU!!!

[snugs]

And why the heck is he echoing the dems talking points, and NOT pointing out that the US is only ONE of dozens of countries and agencies that also said Saddam had them...?

Including my own

[Txsleuth]

LOL--very true re: England....

Actually, I was waiting to get flamed for asking such a ridiculous rhetorical type question....

[chiller]

The fact that the Dems would try to pitch such a ridiculous notion does not say much for what they think of the American intellect. It's an insult.

...or put more simply; THEY THINK WE'RE STUPID.

[rodguy911]

What a load of BS.
I just watched the first part of capt.Mcqueeg with woof woof, McQueeg is placing himself above everyone, triangulating his ass off along the way.

"Iraq is too slow in forming a govt". -who the hell does he think he is, no one could have made any better progress in this mess than we have, he is so full of it.

Woof, woof comments on the lack of sunni involvement in the govt will lead to civil war, more BS we are urging iraq to involve them as much as possible and everyone knows it!


McQueeg puts the worst possible face on the war, abu ghrab and the rest that he can and then trys to take the other side as well, he is as bogus a politician as I have ever seen.

Saudis fund the bad guys, we know, How do you stop it McQueeg? No solutions surprise, surprise,

One minute he is conservative the nest minute in bed with woof woof. He is strictly out for himself, no one else.

[Chuck54]

EU affects we Americans, so I am surprised it has gotten so little play...

Don't be so surprised. If the French voters were supporting the EU, it would be getting hugh play on the MSM.

[Morgan in Denver]

True, but when did that ever stop them from using the same arguments over and over? Democrats figure they can fool their leftist special interest groups, so why not everyone else?

[rodguy911]

I'm gonna start compiling when we hit 300 posts.

[snugs]

I believe so and that is why Blair is in the dilemma because he will have to wait and see re our referendum or say we are not going to have one now and then wait for the screams from the Tories and the anti Europe wing of the Labour Party total opposite in views and opinions on Europe but on this issue they will unit though for different reasons.

I want the UK to keep its sovereignty but have to be realistic that in this day and age we do need a trading block. Which we could have had had we remained in EFTA (European Free Trade Association) strengthened that trading block and not had all the rules and regulations imposed upon us that the EU has done. We were told by the politicians when we entered the EEC (European Economic Community) as it was then that this was just the same but more powerful than EFTA that we currently were a member of. This however morphed into the EU (European Union) and if we continue to go on down this road in a few years time it will be the United States of Europe not a collection of sovereign counties joining forces to promote trade.

[snugs]

He is strictly out for himself, no one else.

That is McPain

[snugs]

OK

[rodguy911]

"United states of Eurpoe"
Do you think that really was the idea all along or did it just morph that way?

[Mo1]

I slept late and missed the morning shows

But I'm watching McCain on CNN

Interesting ... He says he forgives Jane Fonda for what she did during Vietnam

But he doesn't Ramsey Clark who was Former Attorney General of the US

[Txsleuth]

Did you hear that last load of crap by McCain---

When wolfie asked him about Jane Fonda, he laughed and said that YES her visit had been advertised to the POWs, but that it was Ramsey Clark's remarks that were much worse...

That part about Clark is probably true, but you did notice, I am sure, whose name was conspicuously absent in that part of the interview, ole John Kerry....and what he was saying that was also being broadcast over the speakers at the Hanoi HIlton....

Before that part, though, did you hear him admit to "breaking" and implicating the Americans as war criminals?

I have to say, that whenever I think about what McCain had to go through in those POW camps, I just get sick for him, but dang, he makes it impossible to support him by the way he is talking now....

[snugs]

I think that France and Germany has aspirations of this all along but have to query in some way because France can be as fiercely independent on certain things as we can be in the United Kingdom. Germany though I think has always wanted the United States of Europe with them in control which would have been the case if this had happened before the fall of the Berlin Wall. Germany thought the wall coming down would give them more power and more prosperity but they badly miscalculated and it has economically weakened Germany to the extent that there are many west Germans who regret the wall coming down and the reunification of Germany.

Now Germany is weakened economically and in fact the UK has one of the strongest economies in the EU and we should use this power but under Blair I have my doubts.

[rodguy911]

You got his number TX.
If it wasn't for the fact that he did a lot of time in a pow camp and probably has scrambled brains from it, I would come down even harder on him. We don't need him in any position of power, he can't handle it and he's not good for the country.