Skip to comments.
Kerry Finally Signs Vietnam Release
NewMax.com ^
| Saturday, May 28, 2005 12:02 a.m. EDT
| With Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff
Posted on 05/28/2005 10:38:40 AM PDT by Prost1
After pledging to Tim Russert that he would sign a form authorizing the Defense Department to release his military records, Sen. John Kerry has finally put his signature on the document.
Appearing on NBC's "Meet the Press" on Jan. 30, Kerry told host Tim Russert that he would sign the form known as SF 180, but did not say when he would do it.
It took him a solid 110 days to get around to it, and then only after a continuous drumbeat of demands from some conservatives.
A Kerry spokesman told the Washington Times the form is now in the hands of the Navy, where it will be processed before being passed to the National Personnel Records Center. The process could take a couple of months.
Once they are made public, the documents will either prove or disprove claims the Swift Boat veterans leveled against the senator during the 2004 presidential election campaign.
Kerry and his media allies such as the New York Times called the Swift Boat vets a bunch of politically motivated operatives who they claimed shamelessly vilified Kerry's war record.
For their part the vets charged that Kerry's real Vietnam service was so at odds with what he had for years claimed was his heroic war record that it proved him, as they put it, "unfit for command" as America's commander in chief.
TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: form180; kerry; medicalrecord; mtp
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-20, 21-40, 41-59 next last
Looks like Kerry has decided Not to seek another run at the presidency!
1
posted on
05/28/2005 10:38:40 AM PDT
by
Prost1
To: Prost1
...or he's had enough time to tidy them up?
2
posted on
05/28/2005 10:41:02 AM PDT
by
bannie
(The government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend upon the support of Paul.)
To: Prost1
now in the hands of the Navy, where it will be processed before being passed to the National Personnel Records Center. The process could take a couple of months.Thoroughly scrubbed is a better description...
3
posted on
05/28/2005 10:41:20 AM PDT
by
IncPen
(There's nothing that a liberal can't improve using your money...)
To: Prost1
Seeing is believing--see Polipundit.com and kausfiles. How do we know he signed it . And if he does will he mail it in or release all the records? Watch this space!
To: Prost1
Once they are made public... Yes, but who makes them public? Will there at least be an inventory available? Will the newsies accept only what is fed from the Kerry campaign? Will Kerry be allowed to redact information? I thought the whole point of the one-eight-oh was to allow FOIA access to the information from th source.
5
posted on
05/28/2005 10:42:19 AM PDT
by
NonValueAdded
(NEWSWEEK LIED, PEOPLE DIED)
To: bannie
To: Prost1
A Kerry spokesman told the Washington Times the form is now in the hands of the Navy, where it will be processed before being passed to the National Personnel Records Center. The process could take a couple of months. Okay, so maybe another 2 more months (not holding my breath).
7
posted on
05/28/2005 10:42:57 AM PDT
by
xJones
To: Prost1
"...the documents will either prove or disprove claims the Swift Boat veterans..."
Oh geez not necessarily. They may have been Bowdlerized at the moment they were written.
To: Prost1
I think you're misinterpreting. He realizes that he'll never get elected President unless he releases it. So he's doing it now, hoping that the release will clear the way for another run.
9
posted on
05/28/2005 10:44:33 AM PDT
by
Brilliant
To: bannie
don't know but i don't think he can change anything??? but maybe a "friend" can
10
posted on
05/28/2005 10:45:02 AM PDT
by
camas
To: IncPen; bannie
I share ya'lls thoughts on this---
we already know that there was "hanky-panky" with signatures on some of the forms...that the Sec. of Navy during the time some of these forms were supposedly signed by him, doesn't even remember signing them...
We also know from the Swifties, that Kerry managed to "massage" his record even while still in Vietnam, by writing his own reports with falsity and duplicity....
I wish I could be excited about this, but it is too EASY, all of a sudden....therefore, I highly doubt "the truth" will be known....
To borrow a famous phrase, "JUST DAMN".
11
posted on
05/28/2005 10:45:49 AM PDT
by
Txsleuth
(Mark Levin for Supreme Court Justice)
To: Prost1
I'm guessing a dishonorable, or a section 8. Why else would the lamestream media give him a pass before the election?
5.56mm
12
posted on
05/28/2005 10:46:06 AM PDT
by
M Kehoe
To: Txsleuth
They've learned a few things about creating fake documents.
13
posted on
05/28/2005 10:47:47 AM PDT
by
bannie
(The government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend upon the support of Paul.)
To: Prost1
Can you do a selective release using the Form 180?
Kerry then most likely went over his entire record and stipulated what documents will be or will not be released.
It would explain why it took Kerry 110 days to do the form 180.
To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
15
posted on
05/28/2005 10:49:46 AM PDT
by
King Prout
(blast and char it among fetid buzzard guts!)
To: Prost1
B.S.!!!Signing isn't enough. He has to send it in to the proper authorities and allow the papers to be released to the public.
I'm betting we will never see his papers untill Hillary releases them!
16
posted on
05/28/2005 10:50:02 AM PDT
by
airborne
(Dear Lord, please be with my family in Iraq. Keep them close to You and safely in Your arms.)
To: bannie
I think you are right. Even though it helped him...I don't think that even Bush liked the swift's. These political people protect there own-- always figuring the day will come when they need the same favor. That is why Clinton and most of his crony's walked away. That is why Hillary's finance directer walked away. That is why Clinton's people can remove and destroy government documents and get a little slap on the hand. And most likely anything that would really hurt John Kerry has already been taken care of.
17
posted on
05/28/2005 10:51:41 AM PDT
by
Revel
To: NonValueAdded
http://www.archives.gov/research_room/obtain_copies/standard_form_180.pdf
It all depends what he filled in Section III item #2.
My best guess is that he will send it to himself so he can clean it up.
Truth is that it is not sent to the Navy it is sent to NARA in St Louis. So they got that wrong.
I'm guessing 3-4 months, mine took about 5. An I only wanted my DD-214. The civilians at NARA are a joke. Sorry, but I called the military side and at least someone answered the phone and was polite and said she could get what I needed in a week or two. When I kidded her about the military side being different than the civilian side she didn't say anything but did kinda giggle.
18
posted on
05/28/2005 10:52:07 AM PDT
by
ProudVet77
(Warning: Frequent sarcastic posts)
To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
19
posted on
05/28/2005 10:52:18 AM PDT
by
SandRat
(Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
To: Prost1
So has anyone actually seen a copy of this allegedly-signed form 180?
20
posted on
05/28/2005 10:52:38 AM PDT
by
thoughtomator
(The U.S. Constitution poses no serious threat to our form of government)
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-20, 21-40, 41-59 next last
Disclaimer:
Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual
posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its
management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the
exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson