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To: Molly Pitcher
Senator McCain has lost nothing. If Hillary Clinton is the Democrats' candidate in 2008, what alternative would the Republican base have? Vote for Hillary?

This is the one statement that stood out for me. Will the base vote for Hillary? No and yes. They will not physically go out and vote for Satan's Prom Queen (I love using that - thanks to the Freeper who came up with that name). But they will stay home. This is evident in the last 4 elections. 92, 96, and 2000, the majority of the base stayed home because they either did not like the Repub candidate and did not trust him. The base saw what kind of man W is and went out in droves. I do not know if the politicians in DC noticed this or not, but the base will stay home and trust in God rather than go out and vote for McCaniac, Frist, Rudy, Pataki, Jeb, or Santorum. I think they will come out for George Allen.

12 posted on 05/27/2005 4:46:23 AM PDT by 7thson (I think it takes a big dog to weigh a hundred pounds!)
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To: 7thson
I think that George Allen is the guy to watch. McCain and Frist BOTH are done. Allen is all over TV, backing the president's agenda. Allen wants the Nuclear Option. Allen is against Illegal Immigration. See a pattern here? He's actually acting like a CONSERVATIVE Republican. Conservatives will vote for him in Droves. Hillary will be fighting BIDEN who thinks he's the guy. This is why we see him all over TV, day after day. Then there is Kerry. If he can convince Mama to give him the money, he will also throw his hat in. They will tear each other apart because this is their last chance to run.
17 posted on 05/27/2005 5:02:56 AM PDT by grannylinedancer
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To: 7thson

I agree, as of today, I think George Allen is a real possibility, he has been outstanding thru the FilliB kerfuffle, looks & sounds like a Prez. I will not be surprised if he is the Candidate in '08!


18 posted on 05/27/2005 5:26:32 AM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero.)
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To: 7thson
This is the one statement that stood out for me. Will the base vote for Hillary?...they will stay home.

Assuming that the race is between McCain & Hillary, which I think is a pretty big assumption at this point....the "center" - both GOP and Dem - will at least consider McCain. I know liberals who like him a lot, and I know moderates who would not vote for Hillary!

If the conservative base stays home, or even if they vote for a third party candidate, I can't see that they've done themselves any good in terms of practical results, although voting for a third party candidate would at least be a clear indication of their desires -- assuming such a person received enough votes to make a difference.

I think they will come out for George Allen.

I don't think most of the country has even heard of George Allen. He's going to need a lot more name recognition to be a viable candidate. Of course, a lot can happen in the next two years.

19 posted on 05/27/2005 5:31:15 AM PDT by Amelia (Common sense isn't particularly common.)
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To: 7thson

Exactly, if 8 years of Droopy-Draws Clinton has shown anything
it's that the country can survive just about anything. There is no reason to elect another ineffectual RINO to office. Bush seems to be shoring up our military and polishing the American image while opening up the borders to illegals, increasing the burden on the US social services and medical system which will either destroy the system or lead to nationalized health care, and doing a little to lighten the tax burden. (Well, he can't do EVERYTHING.) There is no point in sending more RINOs to DC, if the Leadership can't lead or act like winners. I'd say teh focus should be on building strong local organizations that will eventually force the national 'leaders' out. Once again, mASS. provides us with an outstanding example of what should NOT go to DC.


20 posted on 05/27/2005 5:35:46 AM PDT by NHResident
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