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Kerry finally signs on (Frenchy inks 180)
The Washington Times ^ | 05/27/05 | Editorial

Posted on 05/26/2005 10:29:15 PM PDT by smoothsailing

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1 posted on 05/26/2005 10:29:15 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: StarFan; Dutchy; alisasny; BobFromNJ; BUNNY2003; Cacique; Clemenza; Coleus; cyborg; DKNY; ...
ping!

Please FReepmail me if you want on or off my ‘miscellaneous’ ping list.

2 posted on 05/26/2005 10:30:59 PM PDT by nutmeg ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - Hillary Clinton 6/28/04)
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So I am now assuming we can all file FOIA to get the records and look over them?


3 posted on 05/26/2005 10:31:01 PM PDT by oolatec
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To: smoothsailing

He must have been able to scrub some data.

Why wait this long?


4 posted on 05/26/2005 10:31:14 PM PDT by Carling (FReemail me if you want articles that interest, well...me!)
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To: smoothsailing

I thought he said he released all his records before the election. I guess I just must be getting confused.


5 posted on 05/26/2005 10:32:08 PM PDT by ProudVet77 (Warning: Frequent sarcastic posts)
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To: smoothsailing

Its been a week. Where's the documents???


6 posted on 05/26/2005 10:32:10 PM PDT by Andy from Beaverton (I only vote Republican to stop the Democrats)
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To: smoothsailing

Does signing the 180 mean the docs are ALL public info? Or did he just specify Which items can be released? Or does he get them all and then decide which to release?


7 posted on 05/26/2005 10:32:28 PM PDT by REDWOOD99
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To: smoothsailing
Why do I see some "security" reason preventing the release of these records? Ala the guy who donated to the Clinton campaign who released the Weinberger indictment on the eve of the '92 election, some Kerry insider will black out substantial portions of this for reasons of national security.

Call me a cynic. I know all of the records, complete and unaltered, will soon be made available. And they will disprove all of the Swift Boat Vets allegations. Of course, then he will be asked why he didn't just release them during the election.

Yeah, all the records, completely answering all questions. I'd bet on it. (Is my sarcasm coming through?)

8 posted on 05/26/2005 10:33:14 PM PDT by Dr.Hilarious (If Al Qaeda took over the judiciary and mainstream media, how would they do anything differently?)
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To: smoothsailing

I'll believe it when I see it.


9 posted on 05/26/2005 10:33:54 PM PDT by Tall_Texan (If you can think 180-degrees apart from reality, you might be a Democrat.)
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To: oolatec
J f'n "flip-flop fop" Kerry does a 180 on the 180......I guess the resulting 360 means that he hasn't signed it after he signed it.

Kerry joins Albore (inventor of internet) as having discovered time travel.

10 posted on 05/26/2005 10:34:13 PM PDT by spokeshave (Strategery + Schardenfreude = Stratenschardenfreudery)
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To: smoothsailing

File this next to 'Red-faced Bubba Clinton goes nuclear in deposition'.

Nothing will come of this.

Why?

Kerry would NEVER have signed the 180 if ANYTHING it revealed were the slightest bit embarrassing to him.

If there WAS damaging info, it's gone now, or he NEVER would have signed the 180.

Bank it.


11 posted on 05/26/2005 10:34:14 PM PDT by jra
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To: nutmeg

thanks for the ping!


12 posted on 05/26/2005 10:34:37 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: smoothsailing

Somethings not right. If those records contain political suicide, which I think they do, they have either been scrubbed or he hasn't really signed.


13 posted on 05/26/2005 10:34:47 PM PDT by lp boonie (Been there, done that.)
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It means he gets them.
"According to a Kerry spokesman, the form is currently in the hands of the Navy, where it will be processed before being passed to the National Personnel Records Center."
The fact is you do not submit the 180 to the Navy, you submit it to the NPRC. His staff can't get anything military correct. What does that tell you?


14 posted on 05/26/2005 10:35:27 PM PDT by ProudVet77 (Warning: Frequent sarcastic posts)
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To: ProudVet77

Fire up the SwiftVets site.


15 posted on 05/26/2005 10:36:50 PM PDT by REDWOOD99
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To: smoothsailing; 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Disbelieving Ping!


16 posted on 05/26/2005 10:37:42 PM PDT by BIGLOOK (I once opposed keelhauling but recently have come to my senses.)
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To: smoothsailing

John Kerry's not very proud of this, even though he "supposedly" wrote it.

17 posted on 05/26/2005 10:43:35 PM PDT by Bullish
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So- he signed it, and then turned it into the wrong people. Who will then give it back to him, and he will throw his hands up and claim he did everything he can...


18 posted on 05/26/2005 10:43:42 PM PDT by SteveMcKing
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To: smoothsailing

We'll have to see if he actually had the guts to release them "complete and unaltered, including military medical records," which is what the Swiftees asked in their letter to him dated May 4th, 2004. Just a little OVER A YEAR AGO!!!!



From: http://horse.he.net/~swiftpow/article.php?story=20040629220813790

"Specifically, we the undersigned formally request that you authorize the Department of the Navy to independently release your military records (through your execution of Standard Form 180), complete and unaltered, including your military medical records."


19 posted on 05/26/2005 10:44:36 PM PDT by MarineBrat
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To: ProudVet77
Right.

The NPRC sends them to him. He decides what to make public,IIRC.

I guess it frees up the ability for an FOIA request.That could be wrangled over for a long time depending on the beancounters involved.

20 posted on 05/26/2005 10:44:58 PM PDT by smoothsailing (Qui Nhon Turtle Co.)
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