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Elvis Costello fans walk out in disgust
Norwich Evening News ^
| 5/26/05
| NAOMI CANTON
Posted on 05/26/2005 10:16:45 PM PDT by ambrose
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To: Tall_Texan
"Accidents will happen..."
To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
It's been a good year for the roses. ;P
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posted on
05/27/2005 12:48:43 AM PDT
by
Tall_Texan
(If you can think 180-degrees apart from reality, you might be a Democrat.)
To: ambrose
Nothing Elvis Costello has done is the least bit entertaining. His fame is a total mystery - along with Jackson Browne.
I can't figure out why anybody listens to either of them.
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posted on
05/27/2005 12:52:44 AM PDT
by
xsrdx
(Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas)
To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
"Accidents will happen..." "That's what you get when you go chasing after vengeance"
(The Angels Want To Wear My) Red Shoes
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posted on
05/27/2005 12:59:26 AM PDT
by
NewLand
(Faith in The Lord trumps all!)
To: NewLand; Tall_Texan; ambrose
The thought did occur that this might have been another one of Mr. Costello's theater of the absurd publicity stunts. No stranger to odd on-stage antics. Certainly a LOT more people have now heard about the concert and Elvis Costello than would have without the incident. Perhaps Elvis and David Letterman, Conan O'Brien, or Jay Leno could help clarify exactly what happened...
To: blackbart.223
I never cared for him much anyway. I'll take Frank Zappa or Ozzy Osbourne over him any day. I'm a fan of them all. Completely different kinds of music.
To: xsrdx
I happen to like Elvis' voice. But - he has had a bad reputation for abusing his audiences for years if not decades.
To: Dad yer funny
Who the H is Jake Riviera?
To: John Valentine; xsrdx
When you need a doctorate in British sociology and UK social history to understand what is going on on stage and in the audience, it's understandable that a lot of Americans are going to feel lost in the translation. The Beatles "made it" by playing Chuck Berry covers and a style of music that was rooted in the Chuck Berry/Elvis tradition. Somewhere between '64 and the emergence of punk and New Wave in the late '70s and early '80s, the two societies developed widely divergent subcultures. Whatever the alleged "authenticity" or urban-realism existential grittiness, ironic self-parodies, etc., a lot of Americans just never caught this bug.
Ironically, it was the social and economic distance between the monster rock bands and the fan base which gave rise to the New Wave and punk movements. Elvis' falling prey to the same primadonna self-absorption (if that is what explains this) would certainly add an additional element of irony to this aesthetic watusi.
There's a line from P.T. Barnum that comes to mind...
To: xsrdx
Nothing Elvis Costello has done is the least bit entertaining. I love his first four albums. I was there when it happened. Saw him live, summer 1978. A great musician; singer, songwriter, bandleader. I don't care anything for all that he's done since. But back in the day, Elvis was king!
To: ambrose
Costello...you odd fellow.....
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posted on
05/27/2005 2:53:58 AM PDT
by
Route101
To: rogue yam
I love his first four albums. I was there when it happened. Saw him live, summer 1978. A great musician; singer, songwriter, bandleader. I don't care anything for all that he's done since. But back in the day, Elvis was king!
Ditto. This Year's Model is one of my all-time Top Ten LPs, but I really haven't cared for anything he's done since Armed Forces. Gimme Nick Lowe instead anyday!
To: GodBlessRonaldReagan
Ditto. This Year's Model is one of my all-time Top Ten LPs "I don't wanna kiss you, I don't wanna touch..."
To: GodBlessRonaldReagan
Oh, by the way, I don't know why you don't like Get Happy (#4). If you've heard it and just don't care for it, well, tastes vary. But if you haven't really given it a listen, I recommend you do so. It rocks!
To: xsrdx
Nothing Elvis Costello has done is the least bit entertaining. His fame is a total mysteryHis work with the Attractions was some of the freshest stuff during the 80's. He broke new ground IMHO and deserves his fame.
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posted on
05/27/2005 3:33:22 AM PDT
by
zarf
To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
Whatever the alleged "authenticity" or urban-realism existential grittiness, ironic self-parodies, etc., a lot of Americans just never caught this bug. Don't get me wrong, I love me some Clash, Dead Kennedys, Sex Pistols - I just never heard anything from Costello that was musically interesting. If he's a poet, that probably explains it, I don't listen to music for the lyrics.
I guess he's like Bob Dylan, you either get it, or you don't. I certainly don't!
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posted on
05/27/2005 3:43:13 AM PDT
by
xsrdx
(Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas)
To: xsrdx
I'm not really sure what the Elvis Costello sensibility is about. It may be a little like with Trekkies. Some people apparently experience a level of meaning which energizes them on some level. Others don't get it.
There was a crisis of meaning in the UK in the late '70s and early '80s. Whatever explains that, Elvis' look and ironic-aesthetic posturing -like changing songs suddenly at the beginning of his SNL appearance - clicked with some people. It may have something to do with the sensibility of British comedy. More so than on a purely musical level. Dunno.
To: rogue yam
You know, I don't think I ever heard it! I'll have to check it out - thanks for the tip.
To: Zero Sum
Thanks for that. I love to laugh in the morning.
To: garyhope
"He married Diana Krall? I thought her heroin would have mellowed both of them out. DK has a heroin problem? I never heard that one. I loved her "Live in Paris" album and her cover of Joni Mitchell's "A Case of You" is a masterpeice of emotion. Simply incredible.
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posted on
05/27/2005 4:50:40 AM PDT
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newfreep
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