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To: thombo

The Matrix films were about as blatant as one can make it -- a "hero" slaughtering FBI/Secret Service "Agents" by the dozens. The negative responses to this particular item seem to hang up mainly on the quick references to the Matrix films offered by the author at the beginning. Problem is, it appears that few of the critics here seem to have actually paid attention while viewing the Matrix films, or bothered to ever read any of the numerous commentaries on the film that can be found online (where the authors actually read what the Wachowski Brothers, Cornel West, and a French radical named Baudrillard said about the movie's themes). The Matrix films don't clearly reveal the "plot" until the third film. The men behind the films, along with West and Baudrillard, have since made no bones about the fact that the films attempted to give a "revolutionary virtual cinema" adaptation of two books: one by a left-wing nihilist author (Baudrillard, who discusses nihilistic cultural terrorism in the article Neo is seen turning to in Matrix 1.0 to get at his store of digital representations of mescaline, and was the guy who popped up on some media outlets here briefly when he wrote publicly that we asked for 9/11!) and a top member of the Democratic Socialists of America named Cornel West (who has roles on the Politburo shown in Matrix 2.0 and 3.0). West revealed publicly in 2003 that the Brothers indicated to him that West's book Prophesy Deliverance (Marxist neo-Christian revolution) was a key inspiration for the film. Check out Baudrillard's comments about 9/11, and then consider that he once revealed that he rejected a request to play a role in Matrix 2.0-3.0 -- you can't get more "obvious" about what the films were pushing. They were the most blatant Marxist propaganda EVER seen widely here, complete with theme music from a band infamous for advocating terror emulating the Marxist "Weathermen."

Some starter backgrounders from other sites...

http://www.qkw.com/jon/thematrix.htm
http://www.chrisknipp.com/writing/viewtopic.php?t=120


31 posted on 06/04/2005 9:32:00 PM PDT by CaptIsaacDavis (.)
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To: CaptIsaacDavis

Thankyou,i will ck out the sites.I haven't seen 2 or 3 yet,but i'll take your word on what you say.You seem to know what your talking about.Basically what your saying is that the people involved in the Matrix(from the books to the movies)are Marxists,and the movies have marxist undertones(if u know the background).I must admit i viewed the movie as pure entertainment,and(imo)a very creative story line.


32 posted on 06/04/2005 10:09:19 PM PDT by thombo
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To: CaptIsaacDavis
"They were the most blatant Marxist propaganda EVER seen widely here, complete with theme music from a band infamous for advocating terror emulating the Marxist "Weathermen."

I agree. I'm no expert on Christianity or Western culture and even I could see the syrupy Marxism-Leninism and anti-Western ovatures while watching it. It was pretty thick throughout the movies. Unfortunately, too many people grow up ignorant of the culture they live in and see little cause in defending assaults against it. 40 years ago the schools were steeped in socialism; now socialism reigns in many parts of the country, particularly in popular culture. Today the schools are indoctrinating marxism and anti-Christian hatred among other things so it's an easy bet what the future will bring.

The anti-Western, anti-Christian tribalists know what they are doing and have used the media, the courts, publishing and academia to their advantage for quite a long time. It's too bad many people don't recognize depravity for what it is.

33 posted on 06/04/2005 10:54:44 PM PDT by Justa (Politically Correct is morally wrong.)
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To: CaptIsaacDavis
Well, to put it bluntly, while the first Matrix movie was ground breaking in its effects, and extremely stylish, it was also the best of the movies, precisely because it wasn't full of the sort of stuff you mention.

Let's not forget, those "FBI/Secret Service 'Agents'" that you mention were controlled by, and a part of the Matrix, which held all humans in slavery. So, wouldn't that be more like killing KGB/GRU agents?

The second movie was OK (if they actually shipped Ducatis like that, on a truck, ready to ride, as opposed to disassembled in crates, I'd become a truck hijacker), up until the end where he met "the architect." Then the script went all to hell. And as far as I'm concerned, the third movie sucked, although I did like watching the wife of the "operator" on Morpheous' ship. Man, she was a babe!!!!

Mark

43 posted on 06/11/2005 8:29:47 AM PDT by MarkL (I've got a fever, and the only prescription is MORE COWBELL!!!)
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