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To: MarcusTulliusCicero
Can anyone tell me when was the last great breakthrough in medicine that didn't do extensive higher mammalian research/trials BEFORE moving to humans? ... What is the rush to commit cannibalism on human life before proving methodologies with other mammalian models? Folks, this entire rush to cannibalism that Specter sees as 'enlightened medical advancement' is demonic in nature. What will be left of our 'fear of God' when we are extending our lives via cannibalism? We will no longer be growing in Grace and Knowledge, we will be spitting in God's face. This road Specter wants this nation upon with all haste is but the starting gate for the euphemistically named 'therapeutic cloning' and tissue banks held by grand corporations. Evil is strutting boldly with men like Arlen Specter to do its work. And this is not a new direction for Specter for he's been in Harkin's pocket for years as proved during the appropriations hearings of years ago when Harkin chaired the committee and wanted funding for ESCR under Clinton's watch ... and of course the degenerate sinkEmperor opened the door then through NIH.
29 posted on 05/26/2005 7:59:54 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: MHGinTN

I think we both know the reason: they want to justify the continued slaughter of the unborn. The advances in ultrasound technology have been helping the pro-life cause, so they're looking for some kind of counter-argument, and frankly, they're grasping at straws.


31 posted on 05/26/2005 8:04:37 PM PDT by B Knotts (Viva il Papa!)
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To: MHGinTN

Well, you've also got to remember that liberalism runs very strongly through the scientific community. I am presently in an academic setting and it is standard practice to look down on any research that is privately funded, especially if it is funded by a pharmaceutical company. For many scientists, your funding is only pure if it comes from the government. However, you are just as likely to overstate the importance of any data to justify the renewal of a government funded grant as you are a pharmaceutical. And you are also much more prone to channel the results to confirm whatever pet theory meets the approval of liberal ideology - witness most global warming research. The two "premiere" scientific journals - Nature and Science - are AS political, if not more so than anything you will see in the NYT. It is considered very presitigious to be published in these journals, but, if you examine them closely you will see that most of the articles fall within a very narrow range of topics - and they almost all conform to the liberal view of the world. Therefore, any paper extolling the virtues of embryonic stem cells will be strongly considered by these journals. The same for any paper which purports to support the failed global warming models. And anyone who departs from this orthodoxy is the subject of scathing criticism and not so subtle threats to pull their grant funding!


38 posted on 05/26/2005 9:04:16 PM PDT by MarcusTulliusCicero
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