Iraq unveils massive security offensive

Reuters ^ | 5-26-05 | Diala Saadeh

[vannrox]

[river rat]

I suspect you're right on one point at least -- that the Iraqi KNOW best how to deal with the bastards tormenting and killing them..

They will deal with them, in a manner that goes far beyond what we are permitted...

Personally, I feel the lunatic Jihadists who want to kill and die ---- should be afforded that opportunity on their own turf. No need to leave Syria, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Iran, Jordan or the Palestinian enclaves to die --- they should be allowed to die at home....

Though I doubt I will see Jihadist body counts large enough to satisfy me --- I nonetheless look forward to the bloodbath.

Semper Fi

[angkor]

I nonetheless look forward to the bloodbath.

Ditto. I've been waiting for it.

[the anti-liberal]

I too "doubt I will see Jihadist body counts large enough to satisfy me

But I also wonder if we aren't seeing the fist stage of an actual civil war?

Then again, it's mostly jihadists and militant Islamofascists, not the people of Iraq itself (for the most part)...

[bourbacki]

This strikes me as an exercise in futility. What exactly is the point of announcing such a huge maneuver almost a week in advance? The terrorists and their stockpiles will be long gone by the time this exercised is executed.

Unfortunately, I see ZERO hope for the Sunni cities of Iraq for several years, perhaps decades. The Iraqi security forces (Army, National Guard and Police) are simply not up to the task nor am I sure they'll ever be, and if the U.S. military wasn't there to do the heavy lifting, EVERY Sunni town would quickly turn into Fallujahs. The ease with which the terrorists can come to dominate an entire Sunni town or city speaks volumes whether its Tal Afar, Fallujah, Samarra, Ramadi, Qaim, or Haditha.

The U.S. just had to go back into Haditha after an operation less than 4 months ago because the entire police force had be decimated to the point that there was no law and order in the city. When are Iraqis going to take responsibility for their own security?

[the anti-liberal]

When are Iraqis going to take responsibility for their own security?

I think the question here is- when will they be able to?

[bourbacki]

I know the security forces have improved vastly in the last year, but I'm not talking about the police and military personnel who've bravely done their duty and have died by the hundreds. I'm talking about everyday Iraqis. Where are the citywide revolts against the insurgents? I heard lots of stories out of Fallujah and Qaim after the U.S. assaults there, where townspeople were happy to see the terrorists gone. Certainly the terrorists especially the foreign variety are effectively intimidating and unimaginably brutal, but why don't I hear cases of ordinary residents fighting back even though they outnumber the insurgents by large margins in any town? It's your country! If you don't want jihadis controlling your country, fight back.

[the anti-liberal]

Yes, I agree- it would be so nice to see a genuine popular revolt against the so-called "insurgents". I see parallels with the so-called peaceful and moderate Muslims from whom the silence in the face of the hijacking of their ROP by Islamofascists is deafening.As for the Iraqi's, perhaps it's a symptom of having been 'pistol whipped' over many years.

In our country (US) we've been verbally 'pistol whipped' even that, rather than physically take up arms against the invasion of our country by illegals, "gays" and "lesbians", and the anti-American liberal left, we sit around and whine.

I imagine that's what a lot of Iraqis are doing: sitting around whining 'why don't the American's do something??' while simultaneously whining 'why don't the American's leave us alone??'

[the anti-liberal]

(verbally pistol whipped by the MSM and the liberal left- including the so-called ACLU)