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Iraq unveils massive security offensive
Reuters ^ | 5-26-05 | Diala Saadeh

Posted on 05/26/2005 9:11:06 AM PDT by Pharmboy

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To: Robert_Paulson2
Syria is at war with us, and has officially cancelled their so-called diplomatic relations with us, and also pulled their troops from lebanon BECAUSE they are worried we are going to invade from our bases in IRAQ, worse than they are an attack from Israel via the border with Lebanon.

Can't buy that. It's not a credible analysis. It's possible to imagine a war with Syria at some point in the future, I suppose, but American troops in two Arab capitals at once, Baghdad and Damascus, would be stupidly excessive.

Besides Syria would NEVER leave Lebanon on their own accord, even if they were credibly threatened by invasion from Iraq. Syria essentially has no economy. Lebanon IS their economy. It provides the perks, payoffs, sinecures, and etc which are essential to reward and retain the supporters of any authoritarian government.

The withdrawal from Lebanon presents an existential threat to the Syrian government nearly as great in the long run as a war with Iraq and the Americans, and gives them fewer (not more) options in dealing with such a war if it does occur. After all the fielding of a few divisions more or less won't make any difference in facing the American military; but financial resources, the ability to stir up trouble elsewhere in the region, and the ready availability of proxy warriors like Hezbollah, might.

21 posted on 05/26/2005 11:01:36 AM PDT by Stultis
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To: Robert_Paulson2
Interestingly Israel's raid on Entebbe was named Operation Thunderbolt or Operation Thunder, depending on the translator.
22 posted on 05/26/2005 11:06:46 AM PDT by SJackson (I don't think the red-tiled roofs are as sturdy as my asbestos one, Palestinian refugee)
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To: Stultis; Yehuda; Pharmboy
Media alert:

ABC's Gibson "Surprised" to Learn Iraqis Wish Zarqawi Dead

23 posted on 05/26/2005 11:16:53 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (This tagline no longer operative....floated away in the flood of 2005 ,)
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To: Pharmboy
They need an Islamist fogger


24 posted on 05/26/2005 11:37:24 AM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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To: finnman69
I think this BLU-82 and its cousins qualifies...


25 posted on 05/26/2005 11:41:05 AM PDT by Pharmboy ("Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God")
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To: Bigturbowski
"My question is... If this operation has not started yet, why are they broadcasting it? Won't this give the terrorists a heads up to evacuate now before the checkpoints are set up?"

Intel wants to see who starts moving...that way, they'll know which areas to target. Huh?

26 posted on 05/26/2005 11:58:08 AM PDT by blam
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To: Pharmboy

Rounding up and killing bad guys ~ Bump!


27 posted on 05/26/2005 12:26:37 PM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: blam

"Intel wants to see who starts moving...that way, they'll know which areas to target."

There are a lot of reasons to want the bad guys to move out of Bagdad.


28 posted on 05/26/2005 12:43:38 PM PDT by bnelson44
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To: Pharmboy

No better training than on the job.


29 posted on 05/26/2005 1:05:13 PM PDT by tobyhill (The war on terrorism is not for the weak!)
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To: Robert_Paulson2

I could've sworn I saw a news article somewhere a few days ago about Syrian troops working with the US on the border issue. But it would be very nice if you were right.


30 posted on 05/26/2005 3:25:49 PM PDT by anticommunist8
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To: anticommunist8

Syria Cuts Military Cooperation With U.S.
Las Vegas SUN (AP) ^ | 05/24/05 | ALBERT AJI

Posted on 05/24/2005 6:51:52 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle

DAMASCUS, Syria (AP) - Syria has stopped security and military cooperation with the United States in recent months after Washington failed to respond to repeated overtures from Damascus, Syria's ambassador said Tuesday.

"There has been no cooperation between Syria and the United States on security and military matters simply because all attempts of cooperation between us and them have not led to a political result," Imad Mustafa told The Associated Press in a telephone interview from Washington.

He said Syria had not cooperated with the United States "for months."

"The United States will not be satisfied with Syria unless Syria follows a policy that suits the American political orientation and Israeli interests," Mustafa said, echoing widely held beliefs in the Arab world that the United States is biased toward Israel.

He said the United States wants to "redraw the political map of the region in a way that suits American and Israeli interests."

The United States accuses Syria of facilitating the Iraqi insurgency across its borders, claiming Syria is not doing enough to stop the flow of foreign fighters and funds into Iraq.

Syria denies the accusations, saying it is doing everything it can to control the long, porous border with Iraq.



fwiw, I saw that article too.
the fact that we are on the border and they are helping the insurgents against us, and someone is calling that cooperation... belies the fact that we are probably killing a lot of syrian and iranian 'insurgents' who use that border as their private military base.


31 posted on 05/26/2005 3:32:21 PM PDT by Robert_Paulson2 (Please don't squeeze the Koran. I gotta go to the bathroom.)
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To: Michael Barnes

The troops would get the admiration of their peers which means a lot, their CO would probably buy them a bunch of beers and JD, and if they were smart enough to take pictures...a thousand dollars from a British Tabloid.

I digress with the last one.


32 posted on 05/26/2005 5:21:29 PM PDT by montomike (Gay means happy and carefree...not an abomination against nature's check valve.)
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To: Pharmboy

It was forseeable right after the elections that the first major action of the new government would be a massive assault against the terrorists and murderers, a savage and concentrated cleanup of the trash.

This is NOT going to be a civil war (typical anti-American MSM handwringing), but it is going to be a necessarily brutal and bloody assault on "the evil ones."

Good riddance. About time. Let's roll.

Expect a crescendo of MSM and NGO hysteria about "human rights", which of course they've not levied against the Syrian and Saudi Islamist psychos or the remnants of the murderous Baathist regime now taking refuge in Syria.


33 posted on 05/26/2005 8:16:03 PM PDT by angkor
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To: Pharmboy

SWEEP!


34 posted on 05/26/2005 8:17:11 PM PDT by Fledermaus (The New 7 RINO Dwarfs: Cowardly, Cranky, Dopey, Goofy, Mealy, Sorry and Wussy)
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To: skyman

PSYOPS! You play all the cards you have.

Besides, see if the rats stir.


35 posted on 05/26/2005 8:18:11 PM PDT by Fledermaus (The New 7 RINO Dwarfs: Cowardly, Cranky, Dopey, Goofy, Mealy, Sorry and Wussy)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

DING DING DING!


36 posted on 05/26/2005 8:18:33 PM PDT by Fledermaus (The New 7 RINO Dwarfs: Cowardly, Cranky, Dopey, Goofy, Mealy, Sorry and Wussy)
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To: angkor

Well, the MSM can either scream about the continued car bombings or get behind the program for a sweep. One or t'other.


37 posted on 05/26/2005 8:21:28 PM PDT by Pharmboy ("Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God")
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To: Stultis; Robert_Paulson2; TexKat; Travis McGee; river rat; SJackson; Yehuda

We're not at war with Syria... yet. And actually I think the plan is simply to kill their leadership, rather than to go to war. Assad must know he has a bright red bullseye on his forehead.

The Syrian "diplomatic walkout" over "insulting allegations" came only two weeks after Operation Matador over by the Syrian border. 285 terrorists were killed (many Syrian and Saudi mercenaries), and several hundred more were captured. I have no doubt they spilled the beans about Syrian government complicity in the horrid terrorism against the innocent citizens of Iraq, not to mention American soldiers. Assad is now on the hot seat, big time.

I predicted months ago (right after the elections) that the first major activity of the new Iraqi government would be a brutal and thorough assault against the psycho Islamist mercenaries in Iraq, most of whom are from Syria and Saudi.

It looks like that's about to happen.

Expect hysterical pronouncements from NGOs and the MSM. It's going to be bloody.... and successful.

Assad must be terrified and looking for his own spider hole.


38 posted on 05/26/2005 8:26:27 PM PDT by angkor
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To: Robert_Paulson2
we are probably killing a lot of syrian and iranian 'insurgents' who use that border as their private military base.

Operation Matador, just a few weeks ago.

285 terrorists killed, IIRC, and several hundred captured. Many Syrians and Saudis.

Now imagine what happens when you start interrogating several hundred captured Syrian and Saudi mercenaries, and you're entering all that data into your investigative database. A picture begins to emerge: names, associations, money, leadership, etc.

That's the reason for the "diplomatic walkout". The Syrians have been caught red-handed through probably dozens of corroborating statements, as well as a detailed picture of precisely who's involved in financing and supporting the psychotic and murderous assault against innocent Iraqis.

Immediately after the "walkout" and the "false allegations", I would guess that the Syrians started calling their Bahrain bankers and looking for hidey holes for the inevitable day of reckoning.

Because many Syrian Baathist officials are now Dead Men Walking.

39 posted on 05/26/2005 8:37:39 PM PDT by angkor
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To: Stultis

Many Iraqi troops are undertrained and underequipped.

Upon reading that sentence I looked back at the heading and noted, "Yes, it is Reuters."
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ROTFLMPO and "na-na na na-nah"... when I read the paragraph just above that one, I did exactly the same thing...

"The dramatic rise in suicide bombings and ambushes by mostly Sunni Arab guerrillas has killed more than 600 Iraqis in the last four weeks and raised fears that Iraq could slide toward civil war if the Shi'ite-led government does not deliver on pledges of stability."


40 posted on 05/26/2005 9:33:54 PM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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