[beezdotcom]

People in Drivers Ed classes don't have a learner's permit either, and they're out on major roads. It sounds like the Dad was being cautious by usng an empty parking lot and it turned tragic anyway.

Actually, we were required to get our permit before signing up for Driver's Ed.

[JZelle]

Good point about the extra brake. I remember taking Driver's Ed in high school and we used cars without the failsafe brake.