Hispanics Build a Solid Base

Washington Post ^ | Thursday, May 26, 2005 | By Dana Hedgpeth

[Katya]

He earns that much because he's legal(now). An illegal with no documentation probably gets paid in the range of $11 to $ 15 per hour cash, though many get fake soc #'s and have state and federal taxes withheld too.
However, it is true that in the DC area it's very difficult to find Americans who want to do manual labor. Unbelievably many teens prefer lower paying fast food jobs to outside work. Even housecleaning work, is only done by hispanic women now. It used to be you saw other minorities and poorer white women doing cleaning....no more.

[jocon307]

"It used to be you saw other minorities and poorer white women doing cleaning....no more."

You can still get a "Polish lady" to polish up your house here in Hudson Co., NJ. But, who knows if they are legal either?

[Brian Allen]

<< .... the U.S. crackdown on illegal immigrants makes him angry. >>

Dear Pedro -- please don't let our door hit you in the arse as you leave.

Soon.

[Brian Allen]

<< I am told by aquantences formerly in the building trade that the Latinos do everything possible to alienate gringo holdouts. Untanned non-Spanish speakers can expect accidents, tool theft, vehicular vandalism and friction as a matter of course. They have been chased out of the industry by these tactics while their own government's oversight agencies studiously look the other way.

And that was American workers trying to do the work Americans supposedly aren't willing to do. It's a miracle that none of the displaced has returned to their former worksite with retribution in mind. Or it's a tribute to their restraint and ability to adapt while their government turned it's collective back on them. >>

Now THAT's that Truth.

When they go after burger flipping jobs, many of my friend's kids are told to their faces in SoCal, "We don't hire no damn gringos here."

And these days a holiday in Hawaii is truly a blast from the past, as the bags are carried, the tables waited upon and the beds made by AMERICAN COLLEGE KIDS!

Whoopee!

[Dane]

Gee Brian, did it ever occur to you since New Rome's hypothesis has not been borne out, that the hypothesis is incorrect.

[DumpsterDiver]

Untanned non-Spanish speakers can expect accidents, tool theft, vehicular vandalism and friction as a matter of course. They have been chased out of the industry by these tactics while their own government's oversight agencies studiously look the other way.

That happened here in L.A. in the construction biz and it also happened in the meat-processing plants.

[Dane]

That happened here in L.A. in the construction biz and it also happened in the meat-processing plants

And you know this how?

[hispanichoosier]

Now he is here legally and makes $24.05 an hour.

What do you mean? He is here legally now.

[Brian Allen]

Well gol-ly.

[Must be a bit of a worry for you?]

[hispanichoosier]

Even housecleaning work, is only done by hispanic women now. It used to be you saw other minorities and poorer white women doing cleaning....no more.

Same thing here in Indy. I've encountered too many of my fellow Americans who think that cleaning is beneath them. It's sad because my grandfather (born and raised in rural TN) bagged groceries and swept up hair at a barber shop just to get enough money to go to college. He wouldn't ever have gotten there had he thought that that type of work was beneath him.

[Dane]

Well gol-ly.

[Must be a bit of a worry for you?]

Uh, I'm not the one posting the doom and gloom posts about builings being built and beds being made in hotels.

[KittyKares]

the U.S. crackdown on illegal immigrants makes him angry.

It makes me angry that we do not crack down on illegals enough. There are plenty of people who want to come here and work legally. If Americans truly don't want to do such jobs, let people who want to come here the right way do them.

[NewRomeTacitus]

No hypothesis, just plain reporting from two friends and several of their associates who left construction due to those reasons (plus the plummeting wage rate the unlimited supply of "disposable", non-complaining illegals cause). They were also disgusted with the quality of work most of the illegals performed.

No amount of earnestness makes up for competence. Expect more infrastructure disasters like the Atlanta hotel walkway collapse for the next few decades. That's a hypothesis based on inevitability.

[Dane]

Expect more infrastructure disasters like the Atlanta hotel walkway collapse for the next few decades. That's a hypothesis based on inevitability

Huh and all due to hispanic labor? Actually these disasters are usuually due to faulty design, such as the Kansas City Hyatt hotel walkway disaster in 1981 and the galloping girdy bridge in 1940, built and designed, according to your designations and classifications by "all American labor".

LINK

[NewRomeTacitus]

I forgot that you never tire of defending illegal aliens. What lobby do you work for again?

Yes, I'm aware of the occasional disasters from faulty design. How about the Twin Towers brought down because the designers didn't envision planes larger than those existing when they drew up the plans? Anything less would have found them still standing.

That hotel disaster was found to be attributable to lack of labor oversight. Read that how you like. The firm responsible was justifiably bankrupted through suits and loss of integrity.

Or you can say this is inevetible in a "lowest bidder wins the contract" environment. Fear for our military who pay for faulty equipment with their very lives.

[Dane]

I forgot that you never tire of defending illegal aliens. What lobby do you work for again?

The ad hominems flow when in a corner.

Anyway, IMO, I don't take your fatalistic view that all contractors be they construction or military are all greedy and evil.

[NewRomeTacitus]

Think what you like. Thanks for the laugh and have a good night.

[janetgreen]

They were also disgusted with the quality of work most of the illegals performed.

A common problem here in Mexifornia. Most of the illegal alien "carpenters" aren't really carpenters at all, and perform substandard work that has to be corrected. Cheap labor? Hardly.

[judgeandjury]

There are plans for over 40000 new condos just within Miami, FL proper currently on the drawing board. There is no way these will be built without illegal alien labor.

Why does it have to be illegal alien labor? If it can be proven that we are actually short of workers, Congress could increase the number of legal immigrants that would be allowed to come to the United States.

[judgeandjury]

Uh, I'm not the one posting the doom and gloom posts about builings being built and beds being made in hotels.

By illegal alien lawbreakers. So, do you condone lawbreaking by foreigners in the United States?