[dsutah]

I'm sure glad you took the time to post all of that! I saved it too! I don't think some people on here know about all of that. Or if they did, they've forgotten it. So many times our President's accomplishments get buried under rhetoric from both sides of the ideological divide. Now I realize that we are a nation of human beings. And a goverment of imperfect human beings will not be perfect!

But after reading your list, I realize how so much of it is conservative to me! Or at least I thought it was a conservative list. I always thought that much of the items on the list were desired by most, if not all conservatives on here, but I guess not. At least the way some posters on here talk!

By reading a lot of the posters on here tonight; I realize by the ugly comments by some of them, it seems GWB/his supporters, are not conservatives at all! Or we are not 'real', or 'pure' conservatives, like they are! Somehow we are otherwise: weak, stupid, brainless, immature, unprincipled, bad people, because we support him! Why heck, apparently, we aren't even considered to be his "base", like they are!

Now most posters on this thread don't think this way. But It seems like lately, there is a whole new chorus on here, that's always angry, and bashing GWB, and and those who support him! Where were these people when we were fighting hard to get him in office, and to get him in there again late last year? It's strange, but a lot of them were nowhere in sight!

Now, all of a sudden, they're are here, and insulting him, and other Freepers! When people in the news, and in the opposite party, were lying and talking dirty about him and Mr. Cheney, and other Republicans, where were these posters? I wonder? Probably off pouting, and sulking somewhere, because we don't go along with them, and those candidates they support!

When I read your list, I was struck by all of the things GWB and others, yes even some Democrats(those with a conscience that is), were able to get done! If he was such a miserable failure, how is it that he not only got in again, but with a bigger vote margin than before?

If he is such a terrible leader, how is it that 'real liberals' are always howling about what a religious extremist, warmonger, far right, evil, stupid, (well you get the picture!)man he is, etc..? If he/us are not 'real' conservatives, what is a 'real' conservative? If these angry posters are examples of 'real' conservatives, I don't know if I want to be a 'real' conservative!

If he was so careless about the border, and our security, how is it that the hispanic human rights groups are always harping about how our Pres. treats the immigrants, legal or illegal? How is it that VF is now saying that he's going to complain to the international groups like the UN, or ICC, about how we are treating the immigrants? Man, that doesn't sound like he's much of a 'bosom buddy' of our Pres., is he?

Well, how I run on! Anyway, thanks for posting it. At least a lot of us appreciate being reminded of our/GWB's accomplishments. I'd heard of a lot of them before; but they get buried under all the sour grapes, and other belly-aching that seems to be all over the place on this web-site lately!

My compliments to you and all of the voices of reason, who answer the angry ones with good arguments, that I can't always come up with! I also appreciate those who even if they don't support him, or agree with GWB/Republicans on all things, they are still capable of discussing these in a basically decent, polite, and respectful way!

[Badray]

Nice rant. Meaningless, but nice.

Do you remember when Israel gave the PLO 95% of what they wanted? The PLO should have taken it and run but they didn't. Israel was villified as if they sent in troops and raped every Palestinian woman.

That's the way the left operates. It doesn't matter how much you give, they want more. Kennedy wrote that education bill and he bitched that Bush didn't do enough anyway. Do you see what I am getting at? It doesn't mean that you are doing right just because the left bitches about it. What they (the left) know is that the more vocal they are, the more they get from us.

They didn't compromise because they were winning. They compromised because they knew they were going to lose the filibuster fight, but that didn't change their lying rhetoric, did it? Reid ran another commercial just after the agreement was announced still condemning the GOP and lying about history.

Just don't confuse their screaming about what we do with whether what we did was right. Okay?

[itsamelman]

Thanks for your comments. I really can't take credit for the list, I just cut & pasted from another thread that I remembered (link at bottom of my post). I don't even necessarily agree with every policy or inititative on the list, but I thought there were enough that most "conservatives" would support (e.g tax cuts alone).

And you're right - there's that old saying that you can judge a person by his enemies. Well, I've never seen my enemies (e.g. the Left, Islamofascist nutjobs) so worked up, so GWB must be doing at least a couple of things, uh, "right". And it's interesting to watch the disparate factions line up in opposition. Sort of like the international Left and psychotic islamacists finding themselves lined up next to each other in their hatred of Israel.

Well many on this forum now find themselves lined up next to Leftists and Islamokooks in opposition to the president. Some party. I picture a circular firing squad of Lefty, Islamokook, "real conservative", Lefty, Islamokook, "real conservative", etc. with GWB in the middle. We can imagine how that ends up.

I don't consider myself a "Bushbot" and I certainly do not agree with everything he's done or is proposing, but he's a president, not a dictator. I hold congress at least as responsible for the failures and missteps of government, particularly the bulk of the worthless senators & reps from my home state (CA).

Ronald Reagan is pretty much universally worshiped on FR. You'd be hard pressed to find a negative comment about the man on FR. But he signed the Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986 which legalized 2.8 million undocumented workers. If Bush even suggested a similar initiative (which he has) he would be crucified by the "real conservatives" on FR (which he has). Maybe some of the "real conservatives" would have us tear down that library in Simi Valley for Reagan's "criminal neglect of our nations border and immigration laws."

Bottom line: I'm way past expecting perfection from my president or any other politician for that matter. You'll be disappointed every time.

...And I haven't even mentined that we are at WAR.