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To: AGreatPer; Angelwood; Askel5; BillF; BrucefromMtVernon; daughterofTGSL; Doctor Raoul; ELS; ...

Any DC Chapter Freepers care to weigh in? I'm speculating the "Constitutional Option" has only been postponed. Read my previous replies.


18 posted on 05/25/2005 6:22:05 AM PDT by BufordP ("I wish we lived in the day when you could challenge a person to a duel!"--Zell Miller)
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To: BufordP
Weighing in...
You're a more patient person than me, Buford. I have a barrel of tar warming on a big fire out in the back 40.

I think Frist's words yesterday are in response to the angry calls overwhelming the Capitol switchboard. Of course we will all have to wait and see, but I don't have much confidence that "nuclear" will be used if the Dems renege on the deal.

P.S. There never should have been a deal in the first place. Frist should have used the power of his leadership position to hold his party together; i.e., threats of loss of funding for pork projects in the squishes' districts, etc.

But I know nothing of the machinations of being a politician.

20 posted on 05/25/2005 6:57:46 AM PDT by tgslTakoma
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To: BufordP
I will remain calm. Nothing has changed except Owen and Brown will now get a vote on the floor. What Did the RATs sell out and let these extremists get a floor vote? Reid came out and called middle America extremist. We know who the RINOs are.

Life is good.
24 posted on 05/25/2005 7:55:23 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine's brother ( We need a few more Marines like Lt. Gen. James Mattis)
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To: BufordP
You've put it well in #10 and #16.

If my team of 55 players looses because seven players gave away the game to the opponents, it wouldn't make sense for me to blame the whole team. Blame the seven, not the players or team captain who played their hardest to win.

At this stage, and despite the seven turncoats, only time will tell who will win.

The panel on Brit Hume's Special Report had an interesting disagreement last night.

Morton Kondracke claims that the GOP won because the Dem seven let in the three judges painted as "most extreme" by Dems. Therefore, "extraordinary circumstances" will not apply to other pending judicial nominations and those Dem seven will not filibuster at least until a liberal Supreme Court Justice must be replaced. Kondracke thinks that the deal will get up or down votes for all judges until a liberal Supreme Court Justice needs replacing. This is a ceasefire that works to the GOP benefit for the time being, per his thinking.

Charles Krauthammer has a much different take. He said that pending judicial nominees, other than the three guaranteed a vote, have been thrown off the train. Those other pending nominees will be filibustered with the Dem seven backing the filibusters. Kondracke thinks otherwise.

If Kondracke is right, the Constitutional option is not needed until a liberal SC Justice needs replacing. Judicial nominees will not be filibustered by 40 or more Dems until that day.

I hope that Kondracke is right, but I fear that Krauthammer is right. Probably 6 to 10 Senators in each party don't even know for sure how they are going to behave in the future when these issues resurface. Their future decisions will determine which side is victorious.

The Constitutional option should have already been implemented, but for the seven GOP weak sisters. At least part of the blame goes to those who failed to impress those seven with the need to go Constitutional.

Without intending to reference any particular FReeper as having not done enough, many FReepers who now denounce ALL the Republicans as traitors or spineless:

never lifted a finger in the judicial nominations fight

never showed up for the March for Justice II

never contributed to the cost of it

never wrote to their Senators

never called their Senators' offices

never wrote to their local newspapers

never took a single tangible action to advance the judicial nomination process.

Those FReepers (not you, but they know who they are) should look into a mirror if they want to blame someone for the problems in getting the Const. option through.

26 posted on 05/25/2005 8:51:51 AM PDT by BillF (Fight terrorists in Iraq & elsewhere, instead of waiting for them to come to America!)
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