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Here's the Deal (Why Senate Filibuster Deal Is VICTORY For Conservatives)
American Spectator ^ | May 25, 2005 | The Prowler

Posted on 05/25/2005 4:09:07 AM PDT by PJ-Comix

"There is no way this agreement that breaks Democratic obstruction can be spun any way other than as a victory for Republicans and the Bush Administration," said a Republican Senate leadership aide late Monday night, regarding the agreement reached by 14 senators to avert a showdown vote on the so-called nuclear option that would have ended Democratic filibustering of Bush judicial nominees.

The parameters of the deal insure that six of eight obstructed Bush nominees to the federal judiciary will receive an up or down confirmation vote in the Senate. The three most opposed Bush nominees to the court, Priscilla Owen, Janice Rogers Brown and William Pryor, will not have their nominations blocked any longer; also, three other Bush nominees will eventually receive an up or down confirmation vote as well; the only two nominees who still may be filibustered are Michigan judge Henry Saad and William Myers.

Also as part of the compromise, the Democrat moderates promise to prevent any future filibuster of Bush appeals court and Supreme Court nominees. While Democrats were able to have their "extraordinary circumstances" clause inserted in the deal, no one anticipates that such a situation will arise, assuming Democrats keep their promise. And it appears that a number of promises were being tossed around the negotiation room on Monday afternoon.

Several Republican senators involved in negotiations swore that not only will the six Bush nominees be given an up or down vote, but that Democrats in the room were aware that Republicans involved in the negotiations had agreed to vote cloture on Myers as well, and that Democratic negotiators had agreed that such a move could take place, thus also allowing Myers an up or down vote in the Senate. "Assuming that our guys hold themselves to that promise," says another Republican staffer working on the Judiciary committee, "then we're looking at a clean sweep for confirmations."

That said, Republican Judiciary Committee staffers said it would have been difficult to clear Saad for confirmation, regardless of the Democrats' unethical behavior in his case. Democratic Judiciary Committee staff and Senate Democratic leadership coordinated an attack against Saad by providing and then sending Sen. Harry Reid a memo detailing uncorroborated raw interview notes from Saad's confidential FBI background check.

"Saad has served on the bench in Michigan, he has been a public figure for years, he has had close associations with several Senate and House members from the state of Michigan," says a Washington lobbyist who has met with Saad on occasion. "This is an honorable man whose nomination was badly damaged by Democrats. Any future nominee should be aware of what the Democrats will do to destroy a good conservative."

If there are any potential losers in this deal, it is the moderate Republicans who have put their reputations on the line with not only their Republican colleagues, but also conservative voters. "If Myers doesn't get a vote, if a reasonable Supreme Court nominee does not receive a vote, or has his or her nomination blocked, then those moderate Republicans should be held accountable by not only the caucus but their constituents," said the Republican Judiciary staffer.


HOW TRUE TO THEIR word Democrats will be may become apparent in about a month, when Supreme Court Chief Justice William Rehnquist is expected to announce his retirement. Already in Washington rumors are swirling that current Attorney General Alberto Gonzales may be under serious consideration for the empty slot left vacant after one of the sitting justices is elevated to fill Rehnquist's role.. "You look at what he hasn't done in his few months at Justice," says a former White House staffer, "and it makes you think he's really been looking ahead and trying to keep as clear from controversy as he can."

Gonzales has managed to sidestep taking a position on the Terri Schiavo legal battle, and beyond stating his basic support for the eight judicial nominees in limbo, he has avoided being embroiled in this current debate. As well, he has made very few public appearances where anything remotely controversial could have been uttered.

"Everything points to a Gonzales nomination," says a lobbyist aware of the White House thinking on prospective judicial nominees.

One school of thought related to the threat of a constitutional "nuclear" option was that it would ensure the Bush White House an easier time in putting forward a solid conservative as the president's first nomination to the Supreme Court. But Gonzales would be unacceptable to just about every conservative group in Washington and beyond.

"I don't know of any conservative who worked to reelect this president who would be satisfied with a Gonzales nomination," says a Senate Judiciary staffer. "This president was reelected because conservatives want to see a conservative on the Court. If the president has a second opportunity, then perhaps there is room for Gonzales. But only after the president fulfills his promise to voters."


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 109th; filibuster; judicialnominees; judiciary; senate; ussenate
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To: PJ-Comix
Look, if the 3 nominees now declared to be "acceptable" are the standard, then any judicial nominee Bush puts up in the future who is just as conservative as these three must also be considered acceptable and can't be filibustered under this agreement.

You're dreaming PJ and so is NRO. You actually think the dems are going to rollover and start voting for cloture on every Bush nominee?

141 posted on 05/25/2005 9:46:55 AM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: Soul Seeker

Yes, you've made it clear you don't listen to much of anything. Hence your apparent ignorance on this topic.


142 posted on 05/25/2005 9:49:53 AM PDT by Coop (In memory of a true hero - Pat Tillman)
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To: PJ-Comix

143 posted on 05/25/2005 9:55:41 AM PDT by Lazamataz (The Republican Party is the France of politics.)
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To: jwalsh07
You're dreaming PJ and so is NRO. You actually think the dems are going to rollover and start voting for cloture on every Bush nominee?

It makes NO DIFFERENCE what the Democrats do. MOST of the RINO will vote to end the filibuster rule if the Democrats break the agreement. Not only that a new standard has been set. The 3 appointees that the Democrats now admit are NOT unusual.

About a year from now the Democrats are going to realize they were SNOOKERED by Bush. Let them gloat for now but reality will hit them soon.

144 posted on 05/25/2005 12:03:28 PM PDT by PJ-Comix (Join the DUmmie FUnnies PING List for the FUNNIEST Blog on the Web)
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To: Coop

Applause!

My, I feel put in my place.

What I have made apparent to you is that I don't accept spin. If you are going to waste my time trying to present an illusion as truth you are not worth a moment of my time. So, call my ignorant again. It doesn't alter that Fourteen Senators have displaced 86 others and the President of the United states.


145 posted on 05/25/2005 1:23:01 PM PDT by Soul Seeker
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To: PJ-Comix
You don't understand the democrats PJ. This is all about the SCOTUS. Why usually smart folks don't understand that goes right over my head.

Here's there strategy. They have 7 Republican senators in writing committed not to change the rules in the 109th Congress. If 2 of those repubs break their words and vote to change the rules, then they will be attacked for breaking their words in the august senate, rightfully I might add.

Then the democrats, through their media friends, will convince the average American that they have been more than reasonable by allowing three "extremely conservative" nominees to get an up or down vote.

Then they will fillibuster Bush's SCOTUS nominee in hopes they pick up seats in the 110th Congress which they well might since McCain and his buds gave political cover to some of their counterparts in this bogus agreement who are up for election in 2006.

That's the plan and it may well succeed.

It could have all been averted and we could have gotten all our nominees a vote, not just three, including Rehnquists replacement.

Big freaking mistake.

146 posted on 05/25/2005 3:06:34 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: Soul Seeker

I will call you ignorant again. You bunch of gloom 'n doomers are the ones attempting to spin and present illusion. The most salient points on these threads are invariably from those of us who aren't on the verge of suicide because we haven't bothered to do any reading or critical thinking.


147 posted on 05/25/2005 5:15:26 PM PDT by Coop (In memory of a true hero - Pat Tillman)
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To: Soul Seeker
Will the special election with DeWine in Ohio be a test of whether there is any backlash? If DeWine doesn't feel it in OH, then they have a green light to stunt for their 15 minutes in the MSM.
148 posted on 05/25/2005 5:44:58 PM PDT by spintreebob
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To: Lazamataz

Now watch 'em try an make a silk purse outa one of them ears!!!


149 posted on 05/25/2005 5:50:10 PM PDT by SierraWasp (The "Heritage Oaks" in the Sierra-Nevada Conservancy are full of parasitic GovernMental mistletoe!!!)
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To: spintreebob

The one involving his son? If his son goes down to crushing defeat that could make a few worry, but no, the real test is knocking out these Senators in their elections. Not their progeny.


150 posted on 05/25/2005 6:13:29 PM PDT by Soul Seeker
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To: Soul Seeker
If the son is not damaged while the issue is hot, it will be a forgotten non-issue by everyone except 3 freepers in each contested Senate race.

When your kid misbehaves, make the correction immediately... not 17 months later.
When your roof starts to leak, fix it now, not next year.

151 posted on 05/26/2005 5:02:12 AM PDT by spintreebob
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To: Coop
"Linsay Graham and John McCain may be the first gay marriage in the history of the Senate."

Do you have anything to offer but rhetoric?


How about these?:

McCain Supports Radical Homosexual Activist Position On FMA
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1410931/posts

McCain Meets Sodomite Republican Group (Accepted $40,000 From Log Cabin Republicans
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1411007/posts
152 posted on 05/26/2005 10:20:13 AM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth...)
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